Upload files using torrents to your personal space with Put.io(put.io)
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Upload files using torrents to your personal space with Put.io
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Startups needs to think twice when they decide to use a .io domain.
.io domains aren't top level domains like .com, .org, or .net. They're ccTLDs - country specific domains - like .co.uk, .us, or .com.au. Io is the local domain for the Indian Ocean states. Unlike the TLDs, and a handful of the early ccTLDs, Google doesn't treat .io as a global domain - it treats them as domains specific to the Indian Ocean. This means you're immediately at a disadvantage at being found by your target market via a google search (unless they're specifically searching for your brand).
So while you're more likely to get a common-word .io domain, and they have the obvious relation with technology, if your start up is going to be relying on search engine traffic or might be dealing in a slightly grey area, you should probably just save yourself the bother and go for getX.com or Xapp.com, where X is your website name.
.io domains aren't top level domains like .com, .org, or .net. They're ccTLDs - country specific domains - like .co.uk, .us, or .com.au. Io is the local domain for the Indian Ocean states. Unlike the TLDs, and a handful of the early ccTLDs, Google doesn't treat .io as a global domain - it treats them as domains specific to the Indian Ocean. This means you're immediately at a disadvantage at being found by your target market via a google search (unless they're specifically searching for your brand).
So while you're more likely to get a common-word .io domain, and they have the obvious relation with technology, if your start up is going to be relying on search engine traffic or might be dealing in a slightly grey area, you should probably just save yourself the bother and go for getX.com or Xapp.com, where X is your website name.
I don't have the source (tried to find but buried), but Matt Cutts has stated because so many tech companies use .io as input/output webapp connotation, that behind the scenes, google treats it as a gTLD even though technically it's a ccTLD. I know because I did a ton of research for http://pineapple.io as well as talking to a lot of other people who were ranking their .io domain.
Likewise, there is a movement to get it officially branded as a gTLD just like .me, etc.
I would say choosing a .io domain is just fine.
Likewise, there is a movement to get it officially branded as a gTLD just like .me, etc.
I would say choosing a .io domain is just fine.
It is from a few years ago, but there is this:
> The question came up about whether it matters which TLD (top level domain) you’re using. For example, do .com domains carry more weight than a .net, .us, .info, etc. He said that TLD doesn’t matter–that’s the way Larry and Sergey originally designed the Google algorithm. The algorithm doesn’t care where the page is located, it’s all about pagerank (LINKS) of the particular page. At the end of answering this question he did admit that they might have started to look at particularly cheap (and spammy) TLDs differently than other TLDs–or they might start considering TLD in their algorithm if they’re not already doing so.
https://www.seo.com/blog/conferences/matt-cutts-does-domain-...
> The question came up about whether it matters which TLD (top level domain) you’re using. For example, do .com domains carry more weight than a .net, .us, .info, etc. He said that TLD doesn’t matter–that’s the way Larry and Sergey originally designed the Google algorithm. The algorithm doesn’t care where the page is located, it’s all about pagerank (LINKS) of the particular page. At the end of answering this question he did admit that they might have started to look at particularly cheap (and spammy) TLDs differently than other TLDs–or they might start considering TLD in their algorithm if they’re not already doing so.
https://www.seo.com/blog/conferences/matt-cutts-does-domain-...
Can't you get both, and redirect to the .io one? Or is that bad practice.
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I own the putio.com domain and they approached me when they first launched to buy it, presumably to redirect to put.io but maybe because of these rules.
So either they didn't want to pay what you asked or you've got your own plans for putio.com?
I haven't got any plans for it as a website, I use the domain for email. Putio is how my son used to pronounce computer when he was small. I asked what they were offering, it was a token amount and I preferred to keep it.
Good for you ;-) Nice story about your son. I do suspect you might get some mail from put.io if you have a catch-all emailaccount activated.
Link to those rules: http://www.nic.io/rules.html
Just FYI, on the register pages (http://put.io/register/BASIC) you display the SSL Verified seal but the form isn't actually sent via SSL. You might want to fix that.
There appears to be a HTTPS version of the site, but it's not asking for it by default/redirecting from HTTP: https://put.io/register/BASIC
I didn't build the app - just submitted it to HN. Feedback is valid nonetheless.
Thank you for the heads up. Fixed immediately.
So what happens when copyright holders see a bunch of put.io IP addresses connected to the bit torrent swarm? Or will it be a game of whack a mole? Just interested in the general legality. I suppose no one can really monitor the downloads from random sites like megaupload... will sites like that begin to actively monitor and disable downloads from services like these (as they circumvent the ads)..?
Most likely put.io will receive any DMCA-notices and will have to comply with these and take down the offending files to remain legal?
I used to operate a tor exit-node and my hosting provider wasn't really interested in whether I was infringing or not; If the data looked to be going to my server, I was responsible so in the end I had no option but to operate as a non-exit node. Put.io will most likely be hosting their own data (or in the cload), so this might not be an issue.
I used to operate a tor exit-node and my hosting provider wasn't really interested in whether I was infringing or not; If the data looked to be going to my server, I was responsible so in the end I had no option but to operate as a non-exit node. Put.io will most likely be hosting their own data (or in the cload), so this might not be an issue.
I am wondering the same thing.
Another thing to consider is the scenario that copyright holders start going after Put.io like they did for Megaupload. If they were to get their hands on the database, they will have a record of exactly what each user has downloaded/shared. I wonder what that would mean for the user in terms of legalities and may be even penalties?
Another thing to consider is the scenario that copyright holders start going after Put.io like they did for Megaupload. If they were to get their hands on the database, they will have a record of exactly what each user has downloaded/shared. I wonder what that would mean for the user in terms of legalities and may be even penalties?
This is their DMCA policy
https://put.io/dmca
https://put.io/dmca
In fact, Xunlei, the download software that has most users in the world, does a much better job for a much lower price (10GB for 15 USD per year). But you have to be able to read Chinese...http://vip.xunlei.com/freedom/lixian.html
I'm ok with the free account on put.io.
I use torrent only for foreign tv shows. They are not that big anymore. 1gig will be enough because I don't plan to store the stuff.
I use torrent only for foreign tv shows. They are not that big anymore. 1gig will be enough because I don't plan to store the stuff.
What I like about put.io is that if somebody else already downloaded the same torrent, your download is instantaneous.
Of course, you still have to download the file from put.io, which can itself takes ages (at least from here in Japan). I guess you'll always have bottlenecks somewhere…
Of course, you still have to download the file from put.io, which can itself takes ages (at least from here in Japan). I guess you'll always have bottlenecks somewhere…
Either I missed it, or am a little dim this monday morning but it took me reading the whole landing page to actually figure out what it did. A "torrent gofer".
I am confused at the value though except for the remote control aspect. I can torrent at speeds that saturate my ISP or I can download from put.io and saturate my channel, either way it amounts to the same time. And I have to pay for the intermediate storage? The one benefit I see is when a torrent is slow and the person wanting the file doesn't have a computer available to cover the download period, put.io act as a store and forward server. Possibly if the client->put.io is https then this solves a problem whereby ISP's track the port usage. I suppose torrent->https is an advantage for some.
I am confused at the value though except for the remote control aspect. I can torrent at speeds that saturate my ISP or I can download from put.io and saturate my channel, either way it amounts to the same time. And I have to pay for the intermediate storage? The one benefit I see is when a torrent is slow and the person wanting the file doesn't have a computer available to cover the download period, put.io act as a store and forward server. Possibly if the client->put.io is https then this solves a problem whereby ISP's track the port usage. I suppose torrent->https is an advantage for some.
I love Put.IO, and so I made a cool iOS app for it: http://awesomeputioapp.com
I love put.io app, and thank you as an avid user! One thing would be nice to know: you mention its open source?
{Another thing that would be nice to know is a set of fat rss feeds, but I'll reserve that question for elsewhere.. hint hint}
{Another thing that would be nice to know is a set of fat rss feeds, but I'll reserve that question for elsewhere.. hint hint}
https://github.com/orta/Puttio/ - I should add a link in the site
The app uses a collection of sources of torrents, I've only found the native RSS feeds functionality of Put.IO to be useful for [pod/vid]casts
The app uses a collection of sources of torrents, I've only found the native RSS feeds functionality of Put.IO to be useful for [pod/vid]casts
This is really nice, I hope you know you've won a fan today! :)
So it's a seedbox?
That's what it looks like to me, but other people here seem to be pretty enthusiastic about it. If it's not just a seedbox, ca someone explain it to me?
Without the seed aspect I'd imagine. I could be wrong though but seems kinda pointless/risky for the company to actually seed.
Great landing page.
Seems like they're solving a similar problem to what I'm trying to with ntor. This is obviously way more built out and polished, though.
https://github.com/davidbanham/ntor
I'm very keen to check out their social sharing aspects. Pity they don't seem to have a mechanism for ad-hoc search.
https://github.com/davidbanham/ntor
I'm very keen to check out their social sharing aspects. Pity they don't seem to have a mechanism for ad-hoc search.
Wow, the content filtering nazis didn't take too long to get at this. Websense'd as "file sharing" :(
i have done an internship at put.io so seeing them in frontpage of hackernews is awesome. :)
http://movies.io uses the put.io API!
Awesome. Went from free plan to basic and then to $10/month in 30 minutes.
Integration with movies.io is amazing. And they will automatically download Daily Show from rss feed...
Already downgraded my netflix to 1 movie.
Integration with movies.io is amazing. And they will automatically download Daily Show from rss feed...
Already downgraded my netflix to 1 movie.
I don't understand these services. If I'm going to have to download the thing anyway, why put another layer in the middle? It's always going to take less time to download directly.
You let the service download the slow torrent over night and then use a fast download from their servers to transfer it to your computer. This way you don't have to have a running computer in your room all that time.
Hmm, I forgot that not all people have a computer running 24/7. I haven't seen many slow torrents, but I guess they exist. Thanks for the explanation!
One reason is that these services provide a much better upstream/outbound connection than most consumer ISPs.
I don't understand how they made the service so blazing fast so much so that the moment I pasted a magnet link in, the next second I could direct download from it.
deduplication. Likely someone else had already downloaded that file so put.io just serves you the copy they already have.
The torrents I add aren't being downloaded; they've been stuck at 0% for around 20 minutes now. Is it just under heavier-than-usual load?
Edit: never mind, working as expected now.
Edit: never mind, working as expected now.
One thing, they have an upper limit of 25 characters for the password.
Sometimes that's ok, but not always a good sign for how they store passwords.
Sometimes that's ok, but not always a good sign for how they store passwords.
My (unique) passwords are always more than 25 characters, and it really irks me when websites place maximum limits on the length.
Worse still is when they don't even tell you about the maximum limit, so you paste your 25+ character password in, fire the registration form off thinking everything is fine, only to find they'd only taken the first 10/15/20 characters and the full length password you gave them doesn't work.
Worse still is when they don't even tell you about the maximum limit, so you paste your 25+ character password in, fire the registration form off thinking everything is fine, only to find they'd only taken the first 10/15/20 characters and the full length password you gave them doesn't work.
Fixed, sir. All the passwords are hashed and salted, btw. No worries.
That's some fast turn around you have for fixes, thanks! Now time to change the password.
Nice concept and the home page looks nice
I've noticed they don't fetch popular files twice from torrents that they already have them!
Can I pause and resume downloads?
Now make it work on xbmc …
put.io is the best start-up which I have joined as a customer. Cheap, fast and simple service. Also, put.io accepts free users for 1G. Everybody must try.
do you work for them much?
I really hope you are not trying to reach the spanish market... because "Putio" sounds way too much like an spanish slang word (hard to explain, lets says its a verbalized version of what in english would be "b*tch").
Something similar happened with "webOS" and every spanish forum were making jokes about it.
Something similar happened with "webOS" and every spanish forum were making jokes about it.
Us hispanic people should pronounce it in English("Pout-ai-ou"), same with webOS("web-ou-es"). Only moronic people Makes jokes on things like this.
On the other hand, Colors is something that UX/UI designers should take more seriously: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_symbolism
On the other hand, Colors is something that UX/UI designers should take more seriously: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_symbolism
In which way is Putio similar to Puta other than that they both start with the same three letters?
The pronunciation is completely different, Puta is pronounced 'pooh - ta' where as Putio is 'put - eye - oh' or if pronounced by a native spanish person 'pooh - tee - oh' (in which case the 'tee' would be pronounced extremely quickly.)
I honestly believe this is a false concern.
Source: Lived in Spain for 2 years up until 7 months ago, spent months there at a time previously.
The pronunciation is completely different, Puta is pronounced 'pooh - ta' where as Putio is 'put - eye - oh' or if pronounced by a native spanish person 'pooh - tee - oh' (in which case the 'tee' would be pronounced extremely quickly.)
I honestly believe this is a false concern.
Source: Lived in Spain for 2 years up until 7 months ago, spent months there at a time previously.
Putio could be pronounced very similarly to "Puto", which is a swear word in Spanish. It can have different meanings depending where you are, but in Mexico it can be used directly as an insult.
Just read below that a comment said "X uses the Put.io API", in my (Spanish) head, it sounds like "X uses the F*ing API" ;-)
While I agree with the word similarities, and that it will surely be "translated" or used in Spanish with the alternate sounding words, I disagree that it's necessarily bad. It may in fact turn out to be an advantage, especially within a bit-torrent using group of people. Funny translations will give it mind-share… at least initially. Surely not in the business world, but by using torrents, that was already a given, IMO.
What's the joke about WebOS?
Pronounced in "regular Spanish" will sound like "huevos" (literally eggs, but, in slang, testicles)
Ah, I see, thanks. I didn't catch the pronunciation initially.
The "laws of any Nation" could be a rather onerous clause one hopes never gets called upon. It has happened for .ly domains...