Stealth Infrastructure(vvvnt.com)

http://vvvnt.com/media/stealth-infrastructure

26 comments

jauer12 anni fa

It is very common in the US for government entities to build towers (for water storage or to fill a gap in emergency services 2-way radio coverage) and then lease space to carriers to offset the cost and reduce the number of towers in a area. I'd assume economics before spies if I saw a cell sector on a police tower.

bnchdrff12 anni fa

Local law enforcement organizations do buy cell interception technology, regularly: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/09/meet-the-machines...

Seeing as companies like Harris build equipment for both running and spying on cell networks, it may make sense for them to offer a tower-mounted system...

peterwwillis12 anni fa

And honestly, if they want your cell data they can get it from Room 641A a lot easier than popping up government cell towers all over the nation. On the border, though, it makes more sense to surveil traffic which might not originate from within the US.

jessaustin12 anni fa

Strangely enough, despite all the /stuff/ of cellular infrastructure, on roofs and poles in and around cities, the prevailing idea was that mobile phones communicated via satellite and that all these towers were something to do with TV.

I was conscious back then, and I don't recall this particular misunderstanding. Soon after we wondered "what are those things that are mounted like microwave repeaters but obviously are not microwave repeaters?" someone had figured out they were cell antennas. This was before anyone I knew (except my Uncle Glen) had cell phones.

Hmmm, maybe this misunderstanding was a Kiwi thing.

peterwwillis12 anni fa

Louis C.K. thinks phones communicate with satellites in space.

http://gizmodo.com/5658560/louis-ck-the-shittiest-cell-phone...

"Give it a second, could ya? It's going to space! Could you give it a second to get back from space?"

mindslight12 anni fa

Even more common are people who think GPS involves satellites tracking the location of their phone.

mnutt12 anni fa

I assumed that was a tweak of his similar joke about in-flight wifi. And since many in-flight wifi systems use a combination of air-to-ground and satellite, it is going to space and back in a roundabout way.

dsl12 anni fa

The joke is funnier this way. Technical accuracy be damned. That is what we pay comedians for.

knowaveragejoe12 anni fa

Even if incorrect, his point stands.

wyager12 anni fa

I used to work in one of the taller buildings in a city. At the top of the building, there was a bunch of cell infrastructure. We were installing some radio equipment in the radio room (the same place AT&T and the others had their stuff), and I noticed two identical locked server boxes. They were very heavy-duty compared to the server cabinets I'm used to. One was marked "FBI" and the other was marked "USMS/DEA" (or something like that).

I couldn't really tell without going through a bunch of ceiling-mounted wires, but I'm pretty sure these were connected to some of the civilian cell infrastructure. There wasn't much else to connect to up there.

knowaveragejoe12 anni fa

I've always been fascinated by this. Apologies if if it is linked somewhere in the article that I missed, but where are the forums where radio enthusiasts share hidden towers they've found?

aaronem12 anni fa

Not quite what you're looking for, but there is a "Stealth Infrastructure Catalogue" linked after the article, which might serve you as a place to start.

knowaveragejoe12 anni fa

I took a look there(after winding my way through Bumping Borders), it appears to be a PDF containing a nicely formatted list of sightings from various countries. I was hoping for the "busy forums" mentioned in the article, but this is still very interesting. Thanks.

hxrts12 anni fa

this was his favorite http://www.waymarking.com/cat/details.aspx?f=1&guid=5df351c0...

hxrts12 anni fa

Just asked the author, will post if I find out.

dm212 anni fa

One of your images is 10 MB, it probably doesn't need to be that large while in the middle of an article, maybe a link to the full-size version instead?

hxrts12 anni fa

scaled it down, apologies.

eggnog12 anni fa

Cellular coverage for rural NZ is quite a competitive scene. Did you check your facts on those "Family farms"?

lstamour12 anni fa

I have in fact noticed an impossibly strong AT&T signal at the rainbow bridge. It extends even on the Canadian side. Makes it near impossible to connect easily back to a Canadian carrier like Rogers or Telus. It always seemed a bit strange to me, why US carriers blanketed a tourist area and Canadian ones hadn't.

Aloha12 anni fa

Often the US sites are actually right on the border - I know where several carriers are sited at the Blaine crossing, and both are within a couple block thereof.

tehwebguy12 anni fa

That was a great read!

So, was it a MITM BTS?

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hxrts12 anni fa

You can also find an interview with Julian Oliver here: http://vvvnt.com/media/julian-oliver

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irsneg12 anni fa

Blocked from Russia :/.

hxrts12 anni fa

I'll look into this. In the meantime, we did co-publish this essay with Rhizome.org. You can find their version here (same text).

http://rhizome.org/editorial/2014/may/20/stealth-infrastruct...