Save IE6(saveie6.com)
saveie6.com
Save IE6
http://saveie6.com/
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The best thing about that site is that if you visit it using IE6 you get a script error.
So, you actually use IE6 ? :P
The SaveIE6 campaign was launched on April 1, 2009 and will last until April 1, 2010. A site from the geeks at Pingdom.
it's running a lot longer than it was meant to be. Just like IE6
it's running a lot longer than it was meant to be. Just like IE6
SaveIE6.com was put together as an April Fool’s joke by the uptime monitoring service Pingdom. Due to the tremendous interest it has received we have decided to keep this site up and running. Thanks everyone for the great feedback and for enjoying the irony!
I guess they just didn't remove the conflicting text in their footer.
I guess they just didn't remove the conflicting text in their footer.
I was finding it hilarious until I got to:
"SaveIE6.com was put together as an April Fool’s joke by the uptime monitoring service Pingdom. Due to the tremendous interest it has received we have decided to keep this site up and running. Thanks everyone for the great feedback and for enjoying the irony!"
Perhaps it's because I'm British (we Brits can be a little particular about humour, especially irony), but I don't think a joke like that should explicitly identify itself as such.
"SaveIE6.com was put together as an April Fool’s joke by the uptime monitoring service Pingdom. Due to the tremendous interest it has received we have decided to keep this site up and running. Thanks everyone for the great feedback and for enjoying the irony!"
Perhaps it's because I'm British (we Brits can be a little particular about humour, especially irony), but I don't think a joke like that should explicitly identify itself as such.
I'd agree but reading this comment thread shows a lot of people don't get that it is a joke.
Which really makes it that much more funny.
Exactly. I didn't bother reading the whole page but came back right away on HN to check the comment thread. You guys though are killing all the fun.
> I don't think a joke like that should explicitly identify itself as such.
Ideally, you'd be right. The problem is that so many people also don't think a joke should explicitly identify itself by being funny.
Ideally, you'd be right. The problem is that so many people also don't think a joke should explicitly identify itself by being funny.
My favorite bits were:
"Get the W3C standard changed to fit IE6" (listed as a goal of the site)
"Places Internet icon on desktop (blue e)" (listed as an IE6 feature)
"No need to install (it’s there already)" (another feature)
"Highly secure (has received lots of security updates)"
"Get the W3C standard changed to fit IE6" (listed as a goal of the site)
"Places Internet icon on desktop (blue e)" (listed as an IE6 feature)
"No need to install (it’s there already)" (another feature)
"Highly secure (has received lots of security updates)"
What about "Toby Tablerow, SaveIE6 founder"
Tablerow, heh.
Tablerow, heh.
> "Get the W3C standard changed to fit IE6" (listed as a goal of the site)
Please correct me if I got it wrong, but it seems HTML 5 is a bit similar -- ``let's make a list of features our sponsors support''. Only the sponsor base is wider.
Please correct me if I got it wrong, but it seems HTML 5 is a bit similar -- ``let's make a list of features our sponsors support''. Only the sponsor base is wider.
> I love how you can only open one tab at a time, thus focusing your efforts. Multi-tab browsing is the devil!
Just seeing someone refer to IE6 as "tabbed", albeit single-tabbed, made me realize how far we've come.
Just seeing someone refer to IE6 as "tabbed", albeit single-tabbed, made me realize how far we've come.
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I recall a friend who advocated "tabs" with IE6. He seriously used it that way, too.
I laughed out loud... "You have been mislead by a vocal minority and are using opera, which is clearly an inferior web browser to IE6. Please switch to IE6 and sign our petition."
You have been mislead by a vocal minority and are using chrome, which is clearly an inferior web browser to IE6. Please switch to IE6 and sign our petition.
"You have been mislead by a vocal minority and are using msie, which is clearly an inferior web browser to IE6. Please switch to IE6 and sign our petition."
You have been mislead by a vocal minority and are using unknown, which is clearly an inferior web browser to IE6. Please switch to IE6 and sign our petition.
Has anyone tried browsing with IE6 lately? At the time, everything was probably compatible with it.. but my school still uses IE6 and I am finding more and more common web pages are broken by it. At this point, it probably serves more as a content filter than anything.
I got a real scare when I seen this and it wasnt immediately obvious it was a joke, phew
My favourite part of the site is at the bottom where there's the "Latest tweets about Save IE6" section and it's empty.
Oooo... Its the Big One... You hear that Elizabeth... I'm comin' to you, I'm comin' home to Georgia
So IE6 still accounts for about 1 million monthly page views on our site...about 1.5% of the traffic.
Yesterday we took the plunge and decided to display an eyesore of a box on every page on our site if you surf to it with ie6.
Example of message: http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/6305769/
Imagine if many sites did this to spur the upgrade process. I'm really curious to see the results of this...will traffic plunge by 1.5% or will the usage of ie6 switch to other browsers. Note: no ie9 upgrade choice.
Example of message: http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/6305769/
Imagine if many sites did this to spur the upgrade process. I'm really curious to see the results of this...will traffic plunge by 1.5% or will the usage of ie6 switch to other browsers. Note: no ie9 upgrade choice.
I'm not sure it really will change anything. The assumption is that people with IE6 chose it and can change it which is often not the case (corporate users with a strict IE6 policy notably).
It's reasonable to expect that your users will stay, and the browser repartition will follow the same curves it did before.
It's reasonable to expect that your users will stay, and the browser repartition will follow the same curves it did before.
That is a possibility for sure. Since pb is a younger audience my gut feel is that there are a lot of users who are simply clueless about what browser they are using and just don't know better. Whether they do anything about is another story.
Well, this is 2011. That sort of policy just isn't in application anymore. Because companies with policies are companies with upgrade policies as well.
Sadly, my current client does have a strict IE6 policy in place. Big inertia in some industries (hospitals and pharmaceutical industry in this case).
Quick Revenue Idea:
Make a website (IE6 Compatible, of course) that explains in tedious detail all the reasons a corporation should upgrade. There are real security issues that they should care about. Put this in the form of a white paper, but you get to put a few ads for corporate IT stuff in the corner.
Have a prominent "mail this to my IT administrator" link, that people can click, which mails a link to the page to an email address provided by the user. Use a mailto: link, so the email comes from inside the network, as they're going to get a lot of these, and we don't want them blocking them.
In the footer, have a link to your "developer page" with the text, "Help us educate corporate IT to IE6 security risks". On that developer page, have some javascript that people can cut and paste into their websites that senses when a browser is IE6, and if so, puts up a warning box with a link to the white paper page.
Now you have a potentially viral spread. You have an easy way for developers to alert their users to their browsers vulnerabilities, and do it in a way that leads those users on a path that might actually actuate change, which is, alerting their IT people. When it gets to the IT people, you have made a strong technical case that they can use to go to their bosses and get things done.
Plus, you might get a few clicks from IT guys on your ads to pay for your server space.
Make a website (IE6 Compatible, of course) that explains in tedious detail all the reasons a corporation should upgrade. There are real security issues that they should care about. Put this in the form of a white paper, but you get to put a few ads for corporate IT stuff in the corner.
Have a prominent "mail this to my IT administrator" link, that people can click, which mails a link to the page to an email address provided by the user. Use a mailto: link, so the email comes from inside the network, as they're going to get a lot of these, and we don't want them blocking them.
In the footer, have a link to your "developer page" with the text, "Help us educate corporate IT to IE6 security risks". On that developer page, have some javascript that people can cut and paste into their websites that senses when a browser is IE6, and if so, puts up a warning box with a link to the white paper page.
Now you have a potentially viral spread. You have an easy way for developers to alert their users to their browsers vulnerabilities, and do it in a way that leads those users on a path that might actually actuate change, which is, alerting their IT people. When it gets to the IT people, you have made a strong technical case that they can use to go to their bosses and get things done.
Plus, you might get a few clicks from IT guys on your ads to pay for your server space.
Interesting, we have similar numbers. 1.03% on one site and 1.70% on another, totalling ~3m page views.
A lot of sites are doing that, I seem them all of the time while browsing around.
The only way this could be funnier is if everything was misaligned and padded funny, or objects were cutoff from the IE6 quirky box model.
You should click to download it!
I think that was the funniest part of the site, thank you for pointing it out. I was afraid it might actually download IE6 at first...
Same here... that was the best part...
I just hope that nobody takes this seriously...
Is the browser render speed actually true? http://saveie6.com/compare.php
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O_o
"They may take away our internets, but they can't ever take away our IIIIIEEEEEEEE666666666 .... " -braveheart
Viral marketing via satire!
I can just hope that this site renders fine on IE6.
Is this some sort of dark joke? If so, Too soon.
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No IE5 Mac, no credibility
I love how they have all of those quotes of people who use IE6... they all sound like idiots.
Geek irony. We like!
Seriously, it's better than both IE7 and IE8.
I love it!
Given negative for liking something satirical, I LOVE IT!
Mind if I upvote that one?
haha awesome.
Try downloading it
Haha, what an amazing joke. Felt for it.
Why ppl vote for that on HN?
To be or not to be :)
Wow! Digg level posting on HN, thought that was at least a six+ months off.
I can't believe that 2,047 signed the petition
In tiny text in the page footer it reads, "The SaveIE6 campaign was launched on April 1, 2009 and will last until April 1, 2010."
Something tells me 2K names captured across an entire year will not convince MS to change course with their own http://ie6countdown.com/
Something tells me 2K names captured across an entire year will not convince MS to change course with their own http://ie6countdown.com/
April 1st.
Something tells me no ones trying to get anyone to change their minds.
Something tells me no ones trying to get anyone to change their minds.
Those people were probably laughing as they did so.
The worst part of this is the comparison with other browsers.
http://saveie6.com/compare.php
This is just silly thing people can think of.
This is just silly thing people can think of.
The worst part of this is folks who don't get the joke.
Pretty sure that is the best part.
Oops i have taken this as a serious note!!!!
:)...
If we see fun aspect of this article then comparison is the BEST part of this article.....
As far as I can tell there's no reason to get rid of IE6 unless you're going to also eliminate IE 7 and 8. Aside from CSS differences they are largely equivalent. Even IE9 doesn't support websockets or even half the HTML5 features of any other modern browser so for a modern web app you still need to drop IE support anyways.
I have to disagree.
While IE7 (or IE8 for that matter) is clearly very far from being perfect, it's massively superior to IE6. Not just "CSS differences". I mean IE7 fixed bugs like select elements being always on top or the URL fragment (the #hash part) being submitted to the HTTP server as part of the URL. These issues are major pains in the back. Supporting IE7 is an awful lot easier than supporting IE6.
While IE7 (or IE8 for that matter) is clearly very far from being perfect, it's massively superior to IE6. Not just "CSS differences". I mean IE7 fixed bugs like select elements being always on top or the URL fragment (the #hash part) being submitted to the HTTP server as part of the URL. These issues are major pains in the back. Supporting IE7 is an awful lot easier than supporting IE6.
The things you have mentioned are rather trivial in the overall picture and really not a good enough reason to support IE7 but not IE6. The JavaScript engines are nearly identical and the broad set of technologies are the same.
For example, I consider not supporting SVG 10 years after standarization a major probleam. And only IE9 addressed that issue.
For example, I consider not supporting SVG 10 years after standarization a major probleam. And only IE9 addressed that issue.
And XHTML too.
Aside from CSS differences they are largely equivalent.
One less browser to tweak and test. If you look at the numbers, IE7 is going away fast. That leaves IE8 and IE9.
I think writing for a cross section of IE9, and the more modern browsers (FF,Chrome, Opera), and some specialized code for IE8 where necessary, is a big improvement.
I think writing for a cross section of IE9, and the more modern browsers (FF,Chrome, Opera), and some specialized code for IE8 where necessary, is a big improvement.
Also, JavaScript performance has improved in the newer versions of IE. I just ran into a situation where some DOM manipulation using jQuery was taking 35 seconds to complete in IE6, but took less than a second in IE8.
I ended up spending about four hours coming up with a bunch of optimizations that made it perform acceptably in IE6. I suppose you could argue that optimized code is a good thing, but personally I would have rather have spend that time working on something else.
I ended up spending about four hours coming up with a bunch of optimizations that made it perform acceptably in IE6. I suppose you could argue that optimized code is a good thing, but personally I would have rather have spend that time working on something else.
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As far as I'm concerned, this site is like joking about nazis with holocaust survivors.
Perhaps a bit too much hyperbole here...