I had a conversation with someone who was religiously homophobic on HN recently.
Their mind probably wasn't changed, but having civil discourse about intolerance is important.
I'd much rather see a racist post with thoughtful dissent (which the OP can then read, and is pretty much guaranteed on HN) than for racists to just get excluded, and have no cause to change their mind.
They then go to a more extreme forum, with people who only agree with them. The hate gets amplified instead of dissuaded.
Maybe it's like "low serotonin levels" is to depression. A mechanism through which some effects are expressed, but not the root cause, and only one aspect of the condition.
I think you're right that Comet refers more to the JavaScript techniques that came from those "forever frames".. but to me it was all about the streaming HTTP hack at the heart of it.
I guess it's academic now :-)
Regarding holy grail layout and IE6.. so you're telling me you're a masochist!
Under your axioms, it may be equivalent, but I think they're mistaken.
Orientation is not a choice, and is orthogonal to identification.
I believe that same-sex relationships can be as profoundly fulfilling, enriching, and pro-social as heterosexual relationships.
That marrying a straight woman with a gay man is profoundly unfulfilling for both.
And that denying a class of people something so profound, freely enjoyed by everyone else, and which does not harm anyone else, can indeed be seen as inhumane.
You've buried the lede that the core framework does see homosexual behavior as "wrongful sexual desire", "regressive behaviour".
You can accept that or not, but it's disingenuous to equate asking gays never to have sexual or romantic relationships, to asking non-gay people just to curb excess.
That's not an equal imposition, it feels like self-equivocating ad-hominem to read "you're not being targeted here, so can you stop with the victim complex please?"
If you agree that it's better for gay people to never experience intimacy, please just say so, without labelling the concern (that gay people may feel less invited) as ridiculous