Canada, Tomorrow's Superpower(bloombergview.com)
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Canada, Tomorrow's Superpower
http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-06-12/canada-might-have-the-goods-to-become-a-superpower
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Inflammatory. You can get your citizenship revoked if officers can prove you are engaged in terrorist activities against Canada.
https://openparliament.ca/bills/41-2/C-51/
"Part 1 enacts the Security of Canada Information Sharing Act, which authorizes Government of Canada institutions to disclose information to Government of Canada institutions that have jurisdiction or responsibilities in respect of activities that undermine the security of Canada..."
"Part 2 enacts the Secure Air Travel Act in order to provide a new legislative framework for identifying and responding to persons who may engage in an act that poses a threat to transportation security or who may travel by air for the purpose of committing a terrorism offence..."
"Part 3 amends the Criminal Code to, with respect to recognizances to keep the peace relating to a terrorist activity or a terrorism offence, extend their duration, provide for new thresholds, authorize a judge to impose sureties and require a judge to consider whether it is desirable to include in a recognizance conditions regarding passports and specified geographic areas..."
Etc.
https://openparliament.ca/bills/41-2/C-51/
"Part 1 enacts the Security of Canada Information Sharing Act, which authorizes Government of Canada institutions to disclose information to Government of Canada institutions that have jurisdiction or responsibilities in respect of activities that undermine the security of Canada..."
"Part 2 enacts the Secure Air Travel Act in order to provide a new legislative framework for identifying and responding to persons who may engage in an act that poses a threat to transportation security or who may travel by air for the purpose of committing a terrorism offence..."
"Part 3 amends the Criminal Code to, with respect to recognizances to keep the peace relating to a terrorist activity or a terrorism offence, extend their duration, provide for new thresholds, authorize a judge to impose sureties and require a judge to consider whether it is desirable to include in a recognizance conditions regarding passports and specified geographic areas..."
Etc.
'Terrorist activities' are completely subjective.
I don't know all the details of bill c51, but I read about the citizenship changes that apply to dual citizens.
They're not going to revoke citizenships because you work in the US. They will revoke them from people who fought in armed conflicts against Canada, from people charged with terrorism related offenses in their home countries, and from people who intend to commit acts of terrorism.
What you've said is incorrect. There's a lot in bill c51, but no-one intends to use it against someone who works in the US.
They're not going to revoke citizenships because you work in the US. They will revoke them from people who fought in armed conflicts against Canada, from people charged with terrorism related offenses in their home countries, and from people who intend to commit acts of terrorism.
What you've said is incorrect. There's a lot in bill c51, but no-one intends to use it against someone who works in the US.
BTW, it's not just for dual citizens. It's for all naturalized citizens also. In fact, you can lose your citizenship even if you're born in Canada, but can potentially qualify for some other country's citizenship through your parents. It's all levels of fucked up.
Yeah, I fall under one of the categories of people who can lose their citizenship.
I know I won't lose my citizenship. The people who this will be used against aren't the kind of people I want to share Canadian citizenship with. Say someone who was born here, and had another citizenship, joins ISIS, and isn't allowed back? I'm OK with that.
If I read that they died in the desert (this actually just happened to few guys from Canada), I'd shake the guy who pulled the trigger's hand.
I know I won't lose my citizenship. The people who this will be used against aren't the kind of people I want to share Canadian citizenship with. Say someone who was born here, and had another citizenship, joins ISIS, and isn't allowed back? I'm OK with that.
If I read that they died in the desert (this actually just happened to few guys from Canada), I'd shake the guy who pulled the trigger's hand.
yeah but it's left to the officer's discretion. Sure they say it's "intended" for this or that, but it can be used for anything. For example, if I protest a gas pipeline, I can be deemed a terrorist and my citizenship taken away without due process.
Protesting has a spectrum. Some of it is acceptable, some illegal (though not entirely unacceptable), some unacceptably illegal, and some forms of protest are terrorism.
Protesting a pipeline by mailing thousands of letters to an office, each from a different person, signed, and forwarding a petition to the government? Great! That's how direct democracy works. Get out there and make noise.
Protesting as in handcuffing themselves through a steel pipe, to the trees in the path of a new pipeline? Not terrorism, they'll just go to jail. Maybe they'll get a record, maybe not. Some people are OK with doing this, and it does send a strong message. I'll concede to you that I'm concerned that at some point, someone outside the law and government could convince (or coerce) someone into calling a few instances of this type of protest terrorism.
Protesting as in bombing a pipeline? Well... the way the laws are now, they'll probably just go to jail, unless they're receiving explosives, instruction or funding from a known terrorist group. If they're self-radicalized, they're going to be made an example of. If they're tied to a group, that's when we'll see more of bill c51 used.
Protesting a pipeline by mailing thousands of letters to an office, each from a different person, signed, and forwarding a petition to the government? Great! That's how direct democracy works. Get out there and make noise.
Protesting as in handcuffing themselves through a steel pipe, to the trees in the path of a new pipeline? Not terrorism, they'll just go to jail. Maybe they'll get a record, maybe not. Some people are OK with doing this, and it does send a strong message. I'll concede to you that I'm concerned that at some point, someone outside the law and government could convince (or coerce) someone into calling a few instances of this type of protest terrorism.
Protesting as in bombing a pipeline? Well... the way the laws are now, they'll probably just go to jail, unless they're receiving explosives, instruction or funding from a known terrorist group. If they're self-radicalized, they're going to be made an example of. If they're tied to a group, that's when we'll see more of bill c51 used.
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If it can be taken away, it was never citizenship. It was a fancy visa.
Criminals, even war criminals, are still citizens.
What a politician says a law is for, and what a law can be used for, are often very different.
Criminals, even war criminals, are still citizens.
What a politician says a law is for, and what a law can be used for, are often very different.
Harper's government seems to this liberal American to be horribly fucked up... This opinion started forming somewhere around the time I read about stifling and silencing government scientists WRT global climate change and so on.
Does anyone else in Canada feel this way? What's the mood like there, in general? Would he be re-elected? How is his approval?
It seems like he's dismantling everything good about Canada... But then, rose colored glasses and greener grass, I suppose.
Does anyone else in Canada feel this way? What's the mood like there, in general? Would he be re-elected? How is his approval?
It seems like he's dismantling everything good about Canada... But then, rose colored glasses and greener grass, I suppose.
This ofcourse was introduced by the current corrupt Harper government and can be aimed at liberals who oppose government plans to sell off our natural resources to oil and water companies for peanuts at a high risk to its citizens.
Anyone wanting to immigrate to or open business in Canada, think twice, as this is not the same country you once knew.