Ask HN: How effective is porn branding association with latest technologies?(xkcd.com)
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Ask HN: How effective is porn branding association with latest technologies?
http://xkcd.com/624/
Found this funny strip on xkcd. But all jokes aside, how successful do you think this strategy is in terms of branding? Have you tried to market your product through association with other popular technologies? If so, can you share your success/failure stories with everyone?
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I can see why they chose Facebook as a brand because that is the kind of site you associate with building relationships and making much more personal connections.
So when they say the "Facebook of sex" the idea is to infer a personal connection to excite punters. Sites like Suicide Girls rely heavily on the same tactics - though in a more traditional (some would argue more ethical) way :) I know blokes tend to claim they just "follow their dicks" or whatever but it's been well known in the porn industry that a more personal approach (one reason POV videos are so popular) gets more punters.
I think Facebook of Sex is a scam or rip off site though (or has something dodgy about it). Not checked it out but all the ads feature fairly well known images from other sites / collections (some of them actually borderline indecent imagery). [disclaimer: I come across a vast amount of porn in my work and have to categorise a lot of it - this is just the impression I have got from there]
So when they say the "Facebook of sex" the idea is to infer a personal connection to excite punters. Sites like Suicide Girls rely heavily on the same tactics - though in a more traditional (some would argue more ethical) way :) I know blokes tend to claim they just "follow their dicks" or whatever but it's been well known in the porn industry that a more personal approach (one reason POV videos are so popular) gets more punters.
I think Facebook of Sex is a scam or rip off site though (or has something dodgy about it). Not checked it out but all the ads feature fairly well known images from other sites / collections (some of them actually borderline indecent imagery). [disclaimer: I come across a vast amount of porn in my work and have to categorise a lot of it - this is just the impression I have got from there]
haha, I love the reference to POV videos. You're right, these personalized porn is changing the whole porn landscape.
Here's my question back to you... why did the industry wait until recent years to have a sudden surge in personal approach porn? Was it due to a technical barrier? Or the increase familiarity with personalized content on the internet? Any thoughts?
Here's my question back to you... why did the industry wait until recent years to have a sudden surge in personal approach porn? Was it due to a technical barrier? Or the increase familiarity with personalized content on the internet? Any thoughts?
Bear in mind this are only ideas I've come up with - I'm not linked to the porn business so I can only guess :)
I think a combination of technical limitation and then the sudden hit of certain sites. When porn hit the web it was still something of a niche. It went from being fairly socially acceptable in the early 20th Century to a bit of a stigma around the time of the web (before my time so only what I have been told). Of course the web changed all that turning an already successful industry into a huge one.
So the makers had to find a new niche (edit: I mean before the web it was a niche - or rather what I really mean is that it was nowhere near as accessible). Suicide girls is a huge success because of the personal touch (I would say that 90% of PC's I see have porn on them and a vast majority of them have at least a few SG's images). Another popular one was the "wild girls" type spring break porn (soft and hardcore) - pretty much for the same reason, they werre girls you could see on a beach somewhere all the time, not super-made up pornstars. Again the personal touch.
And finally the customer base is more discerning? or perhaps more demanding :) Im guessing a lot of people prefer a personal touch to their porn to help get over that social barrier.
All just educated guesswork :)
EDIT: anyone happy to admit to being a regular (pay-for) porn consumer (I dont think HN will be judgemental in the way society seems to be!) and throw some light on these ideas from that side of things?
I think a combination of technical limitation and then the sudden hit of certain sites. When porn hit the web it was still something of a niche. It went from being fairly socially acceptable in the early 20th Century to a bit of a stigma around the time of the web (before my time so only what I have been told). Of course the web changed all that turning an already successful industry into a huge one.
So the makers had to find a new niche (edit: I mean before the web it was a niche - or rather what I really mean is that it was nowhere near as accessible). Suicide girls is a huge success because of the personal touch (I would say that 90% of PC's I see have porn on them and a vast majority of them have at least a few SG's images). Another popular one was the "wild girls" type spring break porn (soft and hardcore) - pretty much for the same reason, they werre girls you could see on a beach somewhere all the time, not super-made up pornstars. Again the personal touch.
And finally the customer base is more discerning? or perhaps more demanding :) Im guessing a lot of people prefer a personal touch to their porn to help get over that social barrier.
All just educated guesswork :)
EDIT: anyone happy to admit to being a regular (pay-for) porn consumer (I dont think HN will be judgemental in the way society seems to be!) and throw some light on these ideas from that side of things?
I don't think this has as much to do about porn, than about being able to explain what you do by linking to a known entity.
To create a powerful elevator pitch you try pack as much meaning/punch into every word you utter. The semantics of the word 'Facebook', for example, conjure up networking, friends, messaging, profiles.
Now, how successful this kind of marketing/branding is I cannot tell you in numbers.
Anecdotally, though, I can say I prefer people get right to the point. So, if the app can be compared to something I already know, then please don't wrap it in bullshit and just tell me.
To create a powerful elevator pitch you try pack as much meaning/punch into every word you utter. The semantics of the word 'Facebook', for example, conjure up networking, friends, messaging, profiles.
Now, how successful this kind of marketing/branding is I cannot tell you in numbers.
Anecdotally, though, I can say I prefer people get right to the point. So, if the app can be compared to something I already know, then please don't wrap it in bullshit and just tell me.
They're going a little bit beyond "The Facebook of Sex." They've also got popups that resemble the Facebook chat window popup on the lower right. Very clever.
Found this funny strip on xkcd. But all jokes aside, how successful do you think this strategy is in terms of branding? Have you tried to market your product through association with other popular technologies? If so, can you share your success/failure stories with everyone?