Ask HN: How can I sell a service to your startup?
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Just a quick rundown from my perspective as a founder. Don't consider any of this the final word, of course.
Above all, if I like it, see the benefit and have the money for it, it doesn't matter how you approach. Be straight up about describing it and the benefit to increase the chances of this happening.
a) Cold call/email -- call will probably go to voicemail and I might not get back to you. Email will be read and I will reply with a "no, thanks" or with interest (please note I am not at all behind on my e-mail like some people are.) I much prefer text-primary e-mails to "newsletter" type e-mails that seek to educate me before describing the product. I really like it when someone's e-mail says that they won't e-mail again if I don't respond, but it doesn't influence my decision.
b) Yes, if you meet me you should obviously describe what you do. I will want to hear more and probably make suggestions even if I am not interested.
c) Sample will work really well if it's something people want. Information without a sample has a chance of getting binned. Putting a very visible offer on the information would get more attention from me.
d) Bad idea. You don't know enough people to make this go. You need feedback from strangers.
e1) Look for partners complementary to your business. For example, if you do fresh flowers, get in with an office cleaning company who would sell your flowers as an add-on. They'd get a cut in exchange for you not having to sell.
e2) Also, despite what I said about annoying "educational" newsletters, you should definitely do that on your website/e-mail signup on your website. Some people will definitely find you, even if it's a new product category without a popular search term yet.
e3) Please promote yourself on Hacker News. What is this product/service? Tell us about it, and leave a way to contact you.
Above all, if I like it, see the benefit and have the money for it, it doesn't matter how you approach. Be straight up about describing it and the benefit to increase the chances of this happening.
a) Cold call/email -- call will probably go to voicemail and I might not get back to you. Email will be read and I will reply with a "no, thanks" or with interest (please note I am not at all behind on my e-mail like some people are.) I much prefer text-primary e-mails to "newsletter" type e-mails that seek to educate me before describing the product. I really like it when someone's e-mail says that they won't e-mail again if I don't respond, but it doesn't influence my decision.
b) Yes, if you meet me you should obviously describe what you do. I will want to hear more and probably make suggestions even if I am not interested.
c) Sample will work really well if it's something people want. Information without a sample has a chance of getting binned. Putting a very visible offer on the information would get more attention from me.
d) Bad idea. You don't know enough people to make this go. You need feedback from strangers.
e1) Look for partners complementary to your business. For example, if you do fresh flowers, get in with an office cleaning company who would sell your flowers as an add-on. They'd get a cut in exchange for you not having to sell.
e2) Also, despite what I said about annoying "educational" newsletters, you should definitely do that on your website/e-mail signup on your website. Some people will definitely find you, even if it's a new product category without a popular search term yet.
e3) Please promote yourself on Hacker News. What is this product/service? Tell us about it, and leave a way to contact you.
"nice simple perk" ?
As @redspark says: "Give us more details!"
It is notoriously difficult to assess the value of a "perk". So this perk costs me $10 / employee / week ? At first blush that seems "cheap" but how much time is it taking away? How much tangible productivity gain does it give us? Do the employee's really want it? Will they use / partake after the novelty has worn off? Like after 2 weeks???
So answer your question ... "Make the effort to find out our HR person's name and details. Send her the information and business case, after a reasonable delay follow-up. Don't get upset when she tells you that it's so 'ho hum'"
As @redspark says: "Give us more details!"
It is notoriously difficult to assess the value of a "perk". So this perk costs me $10 / employee / week ? At first blush that seems "cheap" but how much time is it taking away? How much tangible productivity gain does it give us? Do the employee's really want it? Will they use / partake after the novelty has worn off? Like after 2 weeks???
So answer your question ... "Make the effort to find out our HR person's name and details. Send her the information and business case, after a reasonable delay follow-up. Don't get upset when she tells you that it's so 'ho hum'"
Are you worried that if you tell HN what you are selling, everyone is going to want it and swamp you with sales?
Tell us what it is and we can give you better information.
Tell us what it is and we can give you better information.
I'll add a slightly different take: know your audience. We get so many people contacting us assuming they have something we need, when in fact it's not even remotely relevant. It's a total time waster and really annoying.
Do a little research ahead of time and find out if the company is even in a position to want your perk. And each time you find a happy customer, ask them for the name of 3 other folks worth contacting...
Do a little research ahead of time and find out if the company is even in a position to want your perk. And each time you find a happy customer, ask them for the name of 3 other folks worth contacting...
If you show up the office, I promise I will never buy anything from you, ever. If you cold call, I may lie to you, and then hang up, and have Google Voice block your number.
If you pitch me at a meetup, and it's not meetup-related stuff, you're an asshole, and ruining meetups.
If you send an email, though, I may read it, esp. if it comes recommended from someone I trust.
If you pitch me at a meetup, and it's not meetup-related stuff, you're an asshole, and ruining meetups.
If you send an email, though, I may read it, esp. if it comes recommended from someone I trust.
A && B && C && E (get in touch through social media).
My question: what's the best way to approach founders/office managers to provide this service? I'm in NYC but basically have no network here.
How do you like to be approached about these things? Assume that once you actually hear about the service, you wouldn't find it annoying or useless.
a) Cold call/email
b) I introduce myself at a meetup and within a few minutes mention my offering
c) Showing up to your office to drop-off a free sample and some information
d) None - I only deal with people I know well
e) Other
I'm not really a sales guy. But I am genuine and don't give a shyster/hustler vibe at all. Curious about which approach to take.