Show HN: Live Simple – Tiny homes(livesimple.io)
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Show HN: Live Simple – Tiny homes
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Living a spartan existence is like travelling: it's a great way to broaden your mind and you really should do it when you're young and have few commitments.
It works when you are older, too, otherwise your worldly possessions, in particular your home, can become your commitments.
This is why I live in a van down by the river.
Really? Tell us more! Why? How big a van? Is having no permanent address problem-free?
motivational speaker Matt Foley explains:
https://screen.yahoo.com/down-river-000000356.html
https://screen.yahoo.com/down-river-000000356.html
As a person who recently had my house evicted from the land it was sitting on, I encourage you to read your local ordinances carefully, prepare for a legal fight, and don't talk to any curious reporters.
I am indifferent until I see the overcharging, but maybe overpaying is because of tiny wallet/bank.
Disclaimer: builder
Disclaimer: builder
Its sort of crazy that this style of living isn't allowed by many local ordinances. There are tons of folks who could put these up as guest houses or detached offices and be super happy with them. Hell put one up and stick your obnoxious teen ager in it.
To your point they do seem pretty expensive. If you were building in your area what is the price per sq/ft. I understand that it is a terrible metric, but it is the only one that I can think of.
To your point they do seem pretty expensive. If you were building in your area what is the price per sq/ft. I understand that it is a terrible metric, but it is the only one that I can think of.
My wife and I are kicking around the idea of building one as a detached office. haven't looked into local laws yet, but it seems like it shouldn't be regulated as more than a shed (if no one is sleeping in it).
The prices seem kinda ridiculous, or is it just me?
If you just measure in $/sq ft then sure.
It's about the total cost beeing affordable, an running costs beeing as low as possible.
Also this started out as a DIY movement, but now that professional builders are involved, prices go up.
It's about the total cost beeing affordable, an running costs beeing as low as possible.
Also this started out as a DIY movement, but now that professional builders are involved, prices go up.
I think the tiny house movement says something about the economy in the new era of sustainability.
The classic economy wants to grow infinitely to be happy. But a sustainable approach means people are now focusing on conservation of resources, leading to behavior that is the opposite of growth.
The real economy actually wants to shrink, in some cases literally. You see that with tiny houses. If people could wave a wand and shrink their house to reduce their cost of living and footprint, they would.
I think the focus on sustainability is great, but we need to adjust our economic and social structures to accomodate that.
Here is an idea I had related to tiny houses: http://runvnc.github.io/tinyvillage/
The classic economy wants to grow infinitely to be happy. But a sustainable approach means people are now focusing on conservation of resources, leading to behavior that is the opposite of growth.
The real economy actually wants to shrink, in some cases literally. You see that with tiny houses. If people could wave a wand and shrink their house to reduce their cost of living and footprint, they would.
I think the focus on sustainability is great, but we need to adjust our economic and social structures to accomodate that.
Here is an idea I had related to tiny houses: http://runvnc.github.io/tinyvillage/
Cool - some of these look like fancy motor homes for a five star road trip haha.
PS: The first listing is really just an ad for a small home custom builder? Savvy of him to get oodles of free promo for his business but may want to look into that?
PS: The first listing is really just an ad for a small home custom builder? Savvy of him to get oodles of free promo for his business but may want to look into that?
Is there's a way to hook up muni-sewer? If there's a way to avoid composting my own poop, this seems like a fun way to live.
Anyone have experience living in one of these? Even at 20 grand, sleeping above a chemical toilet is bound to get old fast.
I have no experience living in one, but my understanding is they can be hooked up to services if you desire. The reason they are on trailers is because the person who invented the first tiny house (now runs Tumbleweed Tiny House Company http://www.tumbleweedhouses.com/) was looking for a way to get around zoning laws. These houses are so small they are not allowable under most zoning laws. But if you put them on wheels, they qualify as "trailer homes" and, voila!, now you are legal.
From what I gather, the fact that they are too small to be legal in most (urban/within city bounds) areas creates all kinds of challenges. I have long been interested in the subject, and I sometimes fantasize about living in a tiny house, but I have not yet in earnest tried to make it happen.
From what I gather, the fact that they are too small to be legal in most (urban/within city bounds) areas creates all kinds of challenges. I have long been interested in the subject, and I sometimes fantasize about living in a tiny house, but I have not yet in earnest tried to make it happen.
I've lived for 3+ years in a 25' Airstream with my wife. I feel our Airstream is much better laid out then most tiny houses I see. I wouldn't want to do the loft. We love living in a tiny space. We constantly travel though. It might be a different story if the view out my window wasn't constantly changing (feeling closed in..etc.).
I'm building one right now. It's going to be about 20k when I am finished.
https://goo.gl/photos/dPnx7jttphUvQXcj8
Looks fun. Wouldn't be surprised if AirBnB took this idea though and integrated into their platform.
Love it, been watching Tiny House Nation and Tiny House Hunting for a while and this is right on time ;)
Trailers and prefab houses have existed for many decades. Why is now the time?
marketing.
Having watched some of the shows I still don't catch the full appeal. Perhaps so you can claim you don't live in a trailer? Modern campers are at times better finished and likely to pass more stringent inspections. Throw in that trend towards slide outs on campers/trailers and they have space on demand.
Custom workmanship might be the real key, still it is a trailer by any other name.
Having watched some of the shows I still don't catch the full appeal. Perhaps so you can claim you don't live in a trailer? Modern campers are at times better finished and likely to pass more stringent inspections. Throw in that trend towards slide outs on campers/trailers and they have space on demand.
Custom workmanship might be the real key, still it is a trailer by any other name.
Most modern campers can't do winter though. I live in a 25' Airstream. The windows and insulation are crap. Living in an Airstream in a Vermont winter would be painful and miserable. But it has wheels, so I head south.
Economic conditions.
If you're a millennial, you'd typically buy a starter home. Student loan debt and wages (having been disconnected from productivity in the 70s) cause workers to have insufficient income to devote to a "traditional" housing expenses. Therefore, a tiny home with less financial exposure is more attractive. Even though they're not dirt cheap, they can be of high quality construction and cost about the same as a traditional deposit on a traditional home.
If you're a millennial, you'd typically buy a starter home. Student loan debt and wages (having been disconnected from productivity in the 70s) cause workers to have insufficient income to devote to a "traditional" housing expenses. Therefore, a tiny home with less financial exposure is more attractive. Even though they're not dirt cheap, they can be of high quality construction and cost about the same as a traditional deposit on a traditional home.
You can't park one of these anywhere near an urban area with jobs. They do nothing to alleviate housing affordability. In semi-rural areas without jobs housing is already dirt cheap, so they're of little practical use there either.
My anecdotal experience has been that people who are buying these are creative types or tech workers with remote work.
There was a gentleman who posted his entire progress and his financials for the Tiny House on HN a few weeks back, and parked his in rural Texas. There was another young man who placed his on some borrowed land near the University of Michigan, as what he paid to build his was substantially less than what his dorm would've cost.
Remember, tiny houses get you around zoning laws. They're not homes, they're RVs/trailers. You can get much more creative about where you place them compared to a house you'd have to build.
There was a gentleman who posted his entire progress and his financials for the Tiny House on HN a few weeks back, and parked his in rural Texas. There was another young man who placed his on some borrowed land near the University of Michigan, as what he paid to build his was substantially less than what his dorm would've cost.
Remember, tiny houses get you around zoning laws. They're not homes, they're RVs/trailers. You can get much more creative about where you place them compared to a house you'd have to build.
I tried to find this article and couldn't. Could you point me to it please?
I'm interested in it because I'm in the middle of building a Tiny house my self.
I'm interested in it because I'm in the middle of building a Tiny house my self.
What do these things sell dollar / sq foot? Some quick calculation show about $240 / sq foot. Better then SF bay prices but probably not better than most of the rest of the country.
In many parts of the bay area you're not paying for the house as much as the land. In fact if the house is older and in a desirable location it has negative value because of the demo and related permits; a vacant lot would sell for more.
Tried to sign up with Facebook and got an error, FYI.
Feature request: sort results by price (ASC/DESC). Looks great BTW.
Shouldn't it say "meet people who believe less is more"?
Are there more tiny houses anywhere in or around Germany?
"X for Y" type of services never succeed because Y will never be better than X. Describe your service for what it does, not what it can be.
I don't know exactly what your definition of success is, but products of hyper-specialization do indeed make money. Etsy is eBay for home crafts, Twitch.tv is Justin.tv/YouTube/Ustream for video games. And of course there are thousands of enterprise solutions that are simply domain specializations of Microsoft Office and Dropbox that are doing quite well.
That is not true. 4 years ago Parse described itself as "A Heroku For Mobile Apps"
http://blog.ycombinator.com/parse-a-heroku-for-mobile-apps
http://blog.ycombinator.com/parse-a-heroku-for-mobile-apps
This is AWESOME! Great listings already.
IMHO: hipster overflow
Nice site and cool listings but I don't quite understand. AirBnb is for short term rentals / sharing places. This seems to be a site to buy houses. Or am I missing something?
Click on the "rentals" category.
https://www.livesimple.io/en?category=rentals
You're not alone, same confusion here with the analogy.
What do startups have against adverbs?
Maybe we all read Strunk and White:
> "Write with nouns and verbs, not with adjectives and adverbs" [0]
0: http://chronicle.com/article/50-Years-of-Stupid-Grammar/2549...
> "Write with nouns and verbs, not with adjectives and adverbs" [0]
0: http://chronicle.com/article/50-Years-of-Stupid-Grammar/2549...
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/0521431468/
£188
Strunk and White is about £5
£188
Strunk and White is about £5
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Or maybe everyone is trying to think different.
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