>>>>by the time someone is contributing they're already either looking for a new job or expecting promotions and salary hikes in the 20-50% per annum range
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What is wrong with that?
Have you made them sign a service contract?
I bet , you did.
Did you confiscate their original + official documents?
You almost did that.
Why do you hire people with "literally 0 skills" in the first place?
Why?
Why?
Because you could get away with paying them 5K per month.
Why are you blaming others?
Why are you blaming the cost of hiring?
If you have good work to do , you have to hire good people to do the work , and have to pay them good.
But your primary concern is to find people who can be bullied/exploited at severely less cost.
Hence you are ranting about the the lack of skills.
This body shopping attitude of yours deserves nothing but people who leave your company as soon as possible for them.
Your company wants to make profit , not create value , I wish no one stayed at your company after their contract period gets over.
Storm is coming , Mr . Eitally.
Stop blaming , stop ranting about lack of skills in someone else ,Speak the truth - You are finding it hard to find bodies to whore them.
90% of my interviews simply stop at the first question (Can you write a function in C which given an integer array and its size as arguments, returns the number of zeros in an array?)
So , you are claim to run a start up and your job requirements are such that such students make to your interview?
How much are you willing to pay.
3/5/7 thousand Rupee per month.
If your CTC is so low , are you expecting to find what , kernel hackers at such cost.
Here is Advice - Kill your greedy attitude.
Kill your dream that you would be ever successful.
Kill your body shopping attitude.
The problem is people like you , you want people at so cheap price for you so called "start up" and then you rant on Internet that you cannot find people with skills.
The real reason is you are finding it hard to find people to exploit.
If you want better people , you need to pay them . BUT ALAS , why would you want to pay them?
Mr, NM is your role model.
Such articles are published by INDIAN START UPS/CEO OF INDIAN START UPS/VIPRO/INFOSYS/rest of body shops.
Has anyone wondered that why don't we see such articles by Real companies/Real start ups/Real Universities which are not BODY SHOPS ?
See the problem is GREED AND UN ETHICS.
Every start up wants to become a body shop.
Every Indian CEO wants to make a lot of money by adding more people and scaling the billing rate.
The small app development companies oped by those TOMS AND HARRY want to employ a DICK to do "iPhone Development" at for minimum amount of money and henceforth make maximum amount of money.
NEWSFLASH: YOU
yes , THE ONE BLAMING THE PARENTS, THE ONE BLAMING THE QUALITY OF GRADUATES, THE ONE WRITING AN OPEN LETTER TO INDIAN GRADUATING CLASS , THE ONE BLOGGING ABOUT LACK OF CODING SKILLS,
YOU
ARE NOT GETTING GOOD PEOPLE IF YOU ARE NOT PAYING GOOD (Exception being the Linux Kernel , but that is open and free for everyone).
The IT services companies and the people claiming to run start ups - they have just one goal in their life -
EXPLOITATION -
They ARE NOT ABLE TO DO EXPLOITATION at lesser salaries , hence they are ranting.
Such rant has been too much wide spread during the last 5 years.
I have an open question to these IT companies and such start up CEOs?
Why have you not invested in opening a University/Engineering College?
Why has not Infoys/CTS opened a an engineering college?
They can train so many people for 4 months but why not for a 4 year degree program?
They would have have to deploy good faculty in these colleges .(They have a brand name to keep).
Simple Reason - No one would choose(after graduating from InfoSys Engineering college) to work for 10$ per day doing maintenance jobs while the company is charging the clients >10$ per hour.
MY TAKE ON SUCH PEOPLE WHO ARE BLAMING THE EDUCATION SYSTEM---
Why are you blaming the system.
IF YOU WANT CAPABLE ENGINEERS , YOU NEED TO PAY THEM.
YOU WANT TO MAKE MAXIMUM PROFIT ,BUT YOU WANT TO PAY MINIMUM SALARY, BUT YOU WANT TO MAKE THEM SIGN A SERVICE CONTRACT,YOU WANT THEM TO NOT LEAVE, YOU WANT THEM DO DELIVERY AFTER DELIVERY, YOU WANT THEM TO MAKE YOU RICHER -
no SIR , YOU ARE NOT GETTING THAT.
Stop blaming the Engineering Education in India ,Stop thinking that cunning bastards like NM are entrepreneurs-
They are not your role model.
EM is your role model.
DO NOT BLAME SOMEONE ELSE'S PARENTS IF YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO PROFIT FROM THEIR SON/DAUGHTER'S BODIES.
>>This post captures very accurately ................
It also captures very accurately the following.
The definition of a start up in India.
No start up wants to create value for society.
Their immediate concern is making money /monetizing.
The start up founder is someone who has some money and wants to make more money from that money.
Then he wants some engineers/coders/designers to do the job.
The so called start up founder also wants it do in minimum amount of money.
Hence the start up founder chooses people who are not costly.
He finds the not costly people to have lack of skills.
And then he blogs and blames the Indian Education System.
THE INDIAN EDUCATION SYSTEMS WILL CONTINUE TO PRODUCE SMALL NUMBER OF GOOD ENGINEERS . IF YOU WANT TO BUILD SOMETHING WHICH HAS SOME VALUE FOR SOCIETY , THEN HIRE THE GOOD PEOPLE.
BUT BLAME YOURSELF IF YOU CANNOT HIRE GOOD PEOPLE, DO NOT BLAME THE EDUCATION SYSTEM.
you want profit , everyone wants profit, why would anyone work for 25k rupees per month while you charge your clients something 90k rupees per month.
Stop this body shopping attitude.
Just because you know linux kernel and some open source ROR does not gives you any power to blame people whose parents did not purchase them a Desktop when they were 13.
Just because you know
void * (x)(int,char)[66]
does not entitle you to exploit people at so 10k per month who do not know C.
Stop blaming the Education system.
Start hiring good people or go to hell.
Fuck your luck on scaling a body shop.
Why are you not getting people from non tier 3 colleges and choose to not "train" them?
Your choice of "tier 3 " college graduates proves a lot about you.
What you want is pay these "tier3" college grads a minimum amount of money and then charge your clients/sell a produnt to get maximum profit.
No Sir , you are the one to blame yourself.
The greed and un ethical attitude of peopel like you and IT service companies is the one to blame.
First you want chaep labor , then you hire people for cheap , then you blame the education system.
If the IT companies really wanted a good supply of engineers why have they not opened an engineering college in India?
Becasue , No one after graduating from these colleges(assuming they deploy good teachers) would choose to work on BS maintiance projects.
Ok , please kill your body shop attitude , where you want people to work for you and YOU WANT profit.
If you want to create value , then either work for self or hire people whom you need not train.
Do not blame an engineering college.
Open one , I double dare these Infosys shit companies.
my point is how do you deal with the pain of supporting code written by someone else years ago?