The "EU" as a market is only important to the largest players or as an after thought once you have a solid footing in e.g. the US for one simple reason. The EU has too many languages so you can't just target the entire population in one shot like you can in single language even larger economy in America. Even if you wanted to target the entire EU, in my personal experience I can tell you that some web services work well in a place like Germany yet fail hard in France so most small to mid-level players are only going to go in places where they make the most money and it may be years before they ever end up in say Italy or the Netherlands. All that adds up to the EU regulations having a much smaller impact on most startups than you seem to believe. And that impact will be zero on the ones who look at the regulatory landscape as it exists now and just decide to stay out.
Edit: I see somebody chose to express disagreement via mouse rather than keyboard. Interesting.
>But leave it to Americans to proclaim something that is good for people bad because it inconveniences corporations.
I just read the GP post again and I don't see anywhere he indicated his nationality. I understand this legislation is stressful and it may cause you to need something to lash out on but bashing someone's imagined country of origin isn't going to change anything and misdirected anger will probably only make you feel worse.
Furthermore, many of the posters I've seen criticizing the GDPR law have in fact claimed to be citizens of EU countries.
Addendum: I find it disheartening that I wrote this to help the parent poster recognize his misplaced anger and to state facts yet some other people also in an apparent act of misplaced anger/sadness/frustration take the time to down vote me. Hacker News you are better than this.
>I would say neither the Great Wall nor the European laws will threaten the freedom of internet as much as the large US internet monopolies enforcing their behavior on the whole network.
And thanks to this copyright law, these companies that affect both of us equally today will be much worse for your tomorrow. The upstarts to challenge these so-called monopolies won't be hamstrung by weird EU laws in the US but they won't be able to even try to challenge the incumbents on European soil lest they run afoul. So a problem that everybody had is now much worse for you. And you take time out of your day to be smug.
Edit: @krageon, Facebook is having much difficulty with the younger demographics and other services not owned by them are siphoning off their users. And Google is mortally afraid of voice search and assistants eating their lunch. They are not unassailable. But we really don't need their positions further cemented with misguided laws.
>I almost had to laugh after the US just recently abolished Net Neutrality
Your laughter is misplaced. America didn't have net neutrality up until fairly recently and before it was enacted, the internet worked just fine. It'll work just fine now. And if it really matters that much to you that you feel some kind of emotional release from your own worries, just know that many states are already putting laws on the books to reinstate it.
Edit: I can't seem to respond to Superleroy so I'll put it here.
Laughter is good but laughing at the imagined misfortune of others indicates moral failing.
Regarding the state of internet in the US, that is easy to test out. I have Comcast. Name any website or any service and I'll see if I have any trouble accessing it. As it stands, I haven't noticed anything amiss. I run ssh, a web server, I have several Python script that run all day consuming web socket feeds. I naturally stream video etc. No problems and it is all very fast. I have access to 2 Gigabit service. I believe your assertion that my Internet isn't good is in error. You did mention that it makes you happy to laugh at other's misfortune though so if it makes you happy, imagine my internet being terrible. I won't be mad.
>You mean like... Netflix being prevented from streaming through your ISP (the only one available in your area mind) because Google paid it more to prefer YouTube traffic?
You mean a thing that has literally never happened anywhere in the US?
> The things Americans will frame as freedom of choice will continue to baffle me I guess.
I understand that you are frustrated with what is happening with this new legislation but it doesn't help you to make up smug fantasies about America just to make yourself feel better. Your energy would be better spent on your own knitting and maybe this kind of thing wouldn't happen.
What point? Let me inform you of something. When I was growing up, I remember quite clearly being teased and bullied because I liked to read a lot and I liked messing around with computers. The peer group I surrounded myself with were other people just like me who also put up with the merciless bullying. Everybody else self-selected out of my peer group and did everything they could to make me feel lesser because of my interests. But now all of a sudden the internet and smartphones catch on and now coding is "cool". And the same people that selected themselves out of my group now accuse me of being "xenophobic" and "homogeneous". The fucking gall.
Allow me to translate the article: All you assholes that have been blessing our site with your free content and gotten us at number 1, 2, and 3 position on the first page of Google in every country and made us untold millions of dollars, guess what? We don't you no more. You aren't cool and trendy and you won't get us any likes on TwitFace so shove off. We have a new demographic.
>Sounds like they are copying the education system here in the USA.
>the USA.
>USA
Yes, of course. As always and forever. It is really all about the USA. And Americans. Please tell us more about where you live. As we all know, the USA is so much more interesting than the subject of the article. Which has absolutely nothing to do with the USA whatsoever. But that's boring. So, why don't you take the floor and tell us about what we're really all here to discuss. The USA.
So-called "learning styles" is only useful in that it forces the instructor to repeat the material 3 or 4 times thus reinforcing what he's already said. Repetition isn't necessarily a bad thing but wrapping it in this mythology leaves some to be desired. And this myth is alive and well at least where I go to school. One professor even has us go through a book and fill out a questionnaire to "determine" our style. And another, while not doing anything with it, brings the idea up frequently. I don't want to get a target painted on my back by going against orthodoxy so I play along. Sucks though. Feels like a real waste of time humoring this nonsense.
Edit: I see somebody chose to express disagreement via mouse rather than keyboard. Interesting.