@RickWolter This has nothing to do with your story. I do not think I said anything to state or even imply imply that. It was not an 'analogy', not an attempt to 'discredit' neither you nor the organization. I have/had respect for both you and underdog devs, the work you have put in and the goals of the org. I do admit that the way you responded has not increased that respect to put it mildly. It certainly was not ''charming''. But hey, we all have our bad days I guess.
As to 'What is the point in your comment?'
I posted the experiences because it was/is a truly troubling situation for many at the company. Since this topic came up in general, thought I'd ask for advice from what I assumed people with more experience in these matters. Apparently, that is assumed bad faith. Isn't it sad that we have come to this where we can no longer can have questions or discussions? 'I think youre full of shit. I think you made that story up and I think you have some personal issue with me or underdog devs'? Seriously? I had never heard of you or underdog devs before this post.
I use a 'burner' because if I used my real account it would be very easy to find out the company and people directly involved, and that is not what I want.
And yes, you will find psychopaths in business. I don't think it is possible to have a full carreer without running into a few. And no matter how preparared you are, the best ones will fool you, sometimes even for considerable time. My advice there would be, if you see them decloack on others, do not assume they will not on you.
I feel realy sad you took this so wrong. I guess the net realy has no place for good faith inquiry anymore.
This company hired a young guy. Extremely likable dude. (100% female, if that matters) HR loves him, not likes, loves him. Undenyably charming chap. He's hired in a technical position despite having no real education in IT or Computer Science, nor any previous experience.
Turns out he was involved in a fairly recent murder case, did pre-arrest and out on bail. Never mentioned any of it on his CV/application. Things only suface when his trial and subsequent post conviction jailtime comes up.
So, he hired a few other guys to break in and rob an elderly person, who had under his charms confided in him she had a safe full of shinies. Not just hired, he drove them to the site to commit the robbery. They end up killing the eldery woman during the breakin/robbery. The safe turned out to be a fancifull story the granny told the guy.
Murder wasn't solved, but his hired hands start balckmailing him, threathning to rat him out (he was a waiter in a place the elderly woman fequented, where he charmed her). As the blackmail progresses, he sees no way out and walks to the police to cut a deal.
Trial happens, he gets convicted with a light sentence because of ''çooperation'', and after not too long here he is back at the company. HR sends out feelers to the employees (it's a small company of around 50 employees), but it is clear they're still 100% charmed and the whole thing is just to see who would quit once they hired him back so they can prepare.
Now for the kicker: While he was at the company before the trial, and before the company had any idea of his past, he had pitched a SaaS market platform scheme for 'services to the elderly', involving a full database of sensitive info on elderly persons living alone at home.
After his (very) short jail sentence, he is hired back by the company on the same scheme.
Now I've always been an open minded person. I think people can change (infrequently mind you, but possible). But there seem to be too many notes here to not call it a symphony. I have worked with charming psychopaths in the past as has anyone who has been in this business for some time, and you do get better at spotting certain things.
As to 'What is the point in your comment?'
I posted the experiences because it was/is a truly troubling situation for many at the company. Since this topic came up in general, thought I'd ask for advice from what I assumed people with more experience in these matters. Apparently, that is assumed bad faith. Isn't it sad that we have come to this where we can no longer can have questions or discussions? 'I think youre full of shit. I think you made that story up and I think you have some personal issue with me or underdog devs'? Seriously? I had never heard of you or underdog devs before this post.
I use a 'burner' because if I used my real account it would be very easy to find out the company and people directly involved, and that is not what I want.
And yes, you will find psychopaths in business. I don't think it is possible to have a full carreer without running into a few. And no matter how preparared you are, the best ones will fool you, sometimes even for considerable time. My advice there would be, if you see them decloack on others, do not assume they will not on you.
I feel realy sad you took this so wrong. I guess the net realy has no place for good faith inquiry anymore.