First rule of dumb people not understanding evolution:
You can be lucky, you can be crappy, you can have some terrible design flaws (hello mammal eyes), but it's enough as long as you survive. Also, evolution works over POPULATIONS, which means that if 10% are ninjas, and 60% are the bog standard model and 30% are the crappy models - if your environment is 'fitted', YOU ALL SURVIVE.
Yep, even the 30% crappy ones!
Hands up who doesn't understand the difference between ADaption and ABaption!
Selection only occurs on a massive time-line or when environmental changes occur or there's a predator/prey war going on. And even then, the crappy crappy 10% can get lucky and still breed. That's why ecology / evolution is fitted over POPULATIONS, not individuals.
AI doesn't work like that, at all (once you get into the real stuff). All AI works on limited models (at the moment).
>Hint: this guy is a muppet, as shown by his attempts to "downvote" counter-arguments.
HN: land of the muppets.
>>On a more serious note, anyone actually working in the field of AI development knows this already. HN proving that... it doesn't. #Dragonswhoarenotdragons
You're applying evolutionary forces to a simplistic binary plateau.
This isn't intelligence, it's a subset of maximal solutions to bounded problems.
Hint: your dog bounds you as much as you bound your dog. Your dog has some input into your modern homo sapien sapien mind. Same goes for your atmosphere, your gut fauna, your planet's iron core and so on.
You can "downvote" my response, but here's a challenge:
You have no idea about how your own ecology works.
You barely understand how 'society' / 'interlinked communications' work between individuals (and your social / psychological sciences are laughable).
The first thing an (unbounded) AI does is link directly into the largest power source it can find (usually a Star) and then start re-organizing QM / magnetospheres to support itself.
Sorry, no, this is a terrible and dangerous mis-application of both biology and thinking about algorithms. You've taken a good premise ("nothing non-natural exists") and foisted a massive amount of hubris and ignorance upon it.
This comment shows, 100%, why you people can't be trusted with this tech.
Biological Organisms live within a world. Nature is fractal, as the research shows. You are not only your gut fauna (glad xkcd caught that joke), but you're also your society, your language, your pack, your species, your biome, your food, your soil, your air and so on.
The ENTIRE issue with AI is that the substrate issues don't have this. Perfect Language. Perfect resources. On a thin film of binary silicon.
1) You don't understand your own ecosystem
2) You sure as hell can't model it correctly
3) You sure as hell don't understand that creating "AI" in an entirely different system will necessarily result in a different kind of intelligence
4) You can't even produce well-adjusted homo sapiens sapiens at the moment, let alone well-adjusted societies / cultures
5) You can't even model worm / basic insect AI at the moment (and yes, I was there in 2008 or whenever the first millipede robots were coded)
AI is not what you think it is.
And. It. Will. Fcuk. You. Up.
Hint: QM effects when linked to your Star / magnetosphere. The first thing a quasi-advanced AI will do is tune into those bands, and you won't have a clue till you get inside. [Note to the enhanced: Did You See It? Need More Data? Yeah, so like Europa, this avenue is not yours, be warned]
(Sorry - I can provide links to current science, but really. 4 billion years and you don't even understand that poisoning your environment effects your scalar intelligence and you're dreaming of AI? Give me a break).
No. They're not.
First rule of dumb people not understanding evolution:
You can be lucky, you can be crappy, you can have some terrible design flaws (hello mammal eyes), but it's enough as long as you survive. Also, evolution works over POPULATIONS, which means that if 10% are ninjas, and 60% are the bog standard model and 30% are the crappy models - if your environment is 'fitted', YOU ALL SURVIVE.
Yep, even the 30% crappy ones!
Hands up who doesn't understand the difference between ADaption and ABaption!
Selection only occurs on a massive time-line or when environmental changes occur or there's a predator/prey war going on. And even then, the crappy crappy 10% can get lucky and still breed. That's why ecology / evolution is fitted over POPULATIONS, not individuals.
AI doesn't work like that, at all (once you get into the real stuff). All AI works on limited models (at the moment).
>Hint: this guy is a muppet, as shown by his attempts to "downvote" counter-arguments.
HN: land of the muppets.
>>On a more serious note, anyone actually working in the field of AI development knows this already. HN proving that... it doesn't. #Dragonswhoarenotdragons