How China Won and Russia Lost(hoover.org)
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How China Won and Russia Lost
http://www.hoover.org/publications/policyreview/72997307.html
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There is an interesting analogy to India too, which had a sclerotic, state-dominated economic system for 40+ years. India had far less of a dispora than China, but far more than Russia. And India's economic reforms have been half-hearted, and results have been in between China and Russia.
Oh yes, China succeeded economicaly because it is such a free nation.
And while we should commend China for the impressive freedom of its citizens and the resulting economic wealth, we should forget the humble messenger. Isn't it great that we have such stalwart libertarian scholars like the hoover institution that helpfully point out and commend nations that are truly free. With institutions like these in the US, I bet every dictator in the world is shaking in his boots.
And while we should commend China for the impressive freedom of its citizens and the resulting economic wealth, we should forget the humble messenger. Isn't it great that we have such stalwart libertarian scholars like the hoover institution that helpfully point out and commend nations that are truly free. With institutions like these in the US, I bet every dictator in the world is shaking in his boots.
Have you read the text ?
Yes, I read it and learned a lot. Apparently Russia lacked a diaspora. I never knew that! In fact, I am burning all my Vladimir Nabakov books on the grounds that he is a liar.
Also the Chinese wanted reform and the Russians did not. Gorbachev somehow conned the entire Soviet Union to end communism when everyone wanted it to keep going.
Basicaly a lot of lessons learned.
Also the Chinese wanted reform and the Russians did not. Gorbachev somehow conned the entire Soviet Union to end communism when everyone wanted it to keep going.
Basicaly a lot of lessons learned.
Like they said in the article "A few Russians had emigrated to the United States and Israel.", though the number is probably much smaller in comparison.
I think it's saying that Russia being more urbanized, the Russians' lives were much better off to begin with, so there wasn't as much momentum for change. If you compare per capita GDP, Russia is still about three times as much as China, the margin was even bigger back then.
The reform happened mostly in the countryside, while in cities the workers under the protective umbrella of state-owned enterprises were much more resistant to change. It just happened that Russia had a larger portion city workers than China.
I think it's saying that Russia being more urbanized, the Russians' lives were much better off to begin with, so there wasn't as much momentum for change. If you compare per capita GDP, Russia is still about three times as much as China, the margin was even bigger back then.
The reform happened mostly in the countryside, while in cities the workers under the protective umbrella of state-owned enterprises were much more resistant to change. It just happened that Russia had a larger portion city workers than China.
Yes, he mentions a few Russians emigrated, which is an incredible understatement. And he does not reconcile this fact with his theory which assumes exactly the opposite.
Regarding your other argument you are giving the writer too much credit and putting words in his mouth. He does not mention comparative GDP.
Regarding your other argument you are giving the writer too much credit and putting words in his mouth. He does not mention comparative GDP.
So somebody has modded me down. Somebody wishes to deny the Chinese people their glorious freedom!
Fine, mod me down, but I should let you know that you are either a communist deadender that denies the powers of free enterprise or a capitalist imperialist pig and enemy of communism (depending on which jurisdiction you currently reside in). Either way, its a bad thing.
Fine, mod me down, but I should let you know that you are either a communist deadender that denies the powers of free enterprise or a capitalist imperialist pig and enemy of communism (depending on which jurisdiction you currently reside in). Either way, its a bad thing.
Where oh where did this thread go oh so wrong..
Having mentioned that, I understand that this guy is cherry picking facts to fit his particular world view, or narrative. Liberal and Conservative academics are known to do this in their work. Especially the ones who work at think tanks dedicated to espousing a given world view.
I think it is important, however, that we are able to read through a lot of these works picking out useful lessons. Seeing an example of farmers (entrepreneurs) working together, and what that model eventually morphed into industrially in places like Ningbo is useful. I have always wished for an in depth analysis of these formal and informal Chinese business structures. There is probably something we can learn from that.