The Web Is Dying; Apps Are Killing It(online.wsj.com)
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The Web Is Dying; Apps Are Killing It
http://online.wsj.com/articles/the-web-is-dying-apps-are-killing-it-1416169934
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This is behind a paywall. The main points are the following:
1) It's now 86 to 14 percent of phone time for apps vs web. 2) App stores (controlled by Apple/Google) take big fees and make the world much less open. 3) Lists on the stores drive adoption. 4) Search in the stores are broken. 5) Market dominance is bad for innovation and consumers
1) It's now 86 to 14 percent of phone time for apps vs web. 2) App stores (controlled by Apple/Google) take big fees and make the world much less open. 3) Lists on the stores drive adoption. 4) Search in the stores are broken. 5) Market dominance is bad for innovation and consumers
86 to 14...I wonder where my time reading web pages in my Twitter and FB apps — and Reeder — account towards.
This article sounded worrying at first, but it's not that bad.
Most people, consumers, don't necessarily desire the "open-ness" of the Internet, but rather the usefulness of the tools made by corporations which happen to have been delivered over the Internet. Indeed, this would be why those corporations are so big. So technically, consumers win.
The problem is we (hackers) don't like to hear this. We want to believe in the era where a startup like Instagram can thrive. But it's not like the Internet is going to become dysfunctional. Rather, if the web is indeed dying, it will regress to a state where only the "counter-culture" kind of people use it. For most people, it's easier to just use apps anyway, and that's fine.
Most people, consumers, don't necessarily desire the "open-ness" of the Internet, but rather the usefulness of the tools made by corporations which happen to have been delivered over the Internet. Indeed, this would be why those corporations are so big. So technically, consumers win.
The problem is we (hackers) don't like to hear this. We want to believe in the era where a startup like Instagram can thrive. But it's not like the Internet is going to become dysfunctional. Rather, if the web is indeed dying, it will regress to a state where only the "counter-culture" kind of people use it. For most people, it's easier to just use apps anyway, and that's fine.
An article talking about the "walled garden" of app stores, behind a paywall. Classic.
Those are not the same thing.
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It's strange, you'd think almost the opposite would be true. Maybe it's just a matter of who you talk to, but I've heard a lot of people frustrated with companies trying to force feed them apps.
Funny, when Facebook force Messenger as a separate app, I uninstalled both... I'm using the web interface now, and though not great, isn't bad. As a result, I'm using facebook less, and the more emails I get from them, the less I want to use facebook. I can only speak for myself though.
I'm really hoping that more companies do spend time on their mobile sites/interfaces... because I can't be the only one that's starting to abandon the spyware apps in favor of mobile web.
I'm really hoping that more companies do spend time on their mobile sites/interfaces... because I can't be the only one that's starting to abandon the spyware apps in favor of mobile web.
Hey I do this too! Glad to see I'm not the only one who hated how they forced their users to download another app.
Non-paywalled link:
http://online.wsj.com/articles/the-web-is-dying-apps-are-kil...
http://online.wsj.com/articles/the-web-is-dying-apps-are-kil...
Still paywalled on mobile.
Is there any way to read this without a WSJ account?
Yes, you can use a referer controller.
Check this link out: http://www.jongales.com/blog/2014/02/13/how-to-get-around-th...
Check this link out: http://www.jongales.com/blog/2014/02/13/how-to-get-around-th...
Yes, if you're referred from Google it lets you read the whole thing. So just Google the title of the article and click on the first link.
good tip - this link worked fine for me https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web...
You can, via Google, but I wouldn't bother — it's an egregiously stupid and shallow piece of link-bait.
No, it's behind a paywall.
Though the overall sales in the app stores (Apple and Google) are still increasing, they are increasing much more slowly than the number of available apps, and developers are able to charge less today than in the past for each app, resulting in a situation where the vast majority of apps just aren't worth building as products in themselves. Fewer and fewer people are buying their first phone, and first phone buyers are the main buyers of apps. People on their third phone don't do much shopping for new and interesting apps. They just use what they've been using--the apps that came with the phone plus a handful of other standards from, say, Google, Facebook, and Twitter--and beyond that they don't care.
It's getting to the point where the only reason to develop a new commercial app (as opposed to a personal project) will be as a component in a business that sells things other than apps. If you are trying to build a business selling apps (including in-app purchases of upgrades and add-ons), your chances of success are falling fast.
So, apps are not only "killing the Web", they are in that same sense killing themselves.
What's really dying here is just the potential for most people to make a fortune building websites or phone apps as competition drives it toward ordinary compensation for ordinary work.