Nexus 7(google.com)
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Nexus 7
http://www.google.com/nexus/7/index.html
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This has been out for a few weeks now. Why is on the front page? Topic could be a bit more specific.
I'm not 100% sure either but I suspect it's more about Google taking their design to a new level. These kinds of effects have been seen elsewhere before but it's interesting to see Google implementing them for their own real product pages. It looks good.
I agree the design is great, but they are still having issues with @2x images in the dropdown menu with a >768px retina device. ;)
see: http://imgur.com/t9ofYe5
see: http://imgur.com/t9ofYe5
It may look pretty to some people, but it's horrendous to use in a desktop browser, especially when you just want the important information.
The video is a time-waster, without offering any useful information.
It then takes a bunch of scrolling just to get to the first panel with the basic details. Of course, they're quite limited, and interspersed within a bunch of irrelevant marketing nonsense.
Then even more scrolling is required to get further details.
The "Everything you care about ...", "Endless entertainment ...", etc. panels are huge space-wasters, without any useful information. I personally find them very distracting, too, due to how the page and background move relative to one another. They require more scrolling to get past.
It takes yet more scrolling to get to the "Tech Specs" link. Of course, it's broken for middle-clicks, so you're forced to open the specs inline. The font is unnecessarily huge, and there's excessive whitespace, resulting in even more scrolling just to view the specs. I don't even see any way to close the tech specs unless you scroll all the way to the bottom of them, and click the "close Tech Specs" link.
Finally, the useful pricing information is way at the bottom of the page, assuming the potential customer has even bothered to scroll this far down.
The useful information could have easily fit within one page that didn't require any scrolling whatsoever, without all of the marketing nonsense, and without the useless space-wasting imagery. I would be very pleased if I never had to encounter a page like that one ever again.
The video is a time-waster, without offering any useful information.
It then takes a bunch of scrolling just to get to the first panel with the basic details. Of course, they're quite limited, and interspersed within a bunch of irrelevant marketing nonsense.
Then even more scrolling is required to get further details.
The "Everything you care about ...", "Endless entertainment ...", etc. panels are huge space-wasters, without any useful information. I personally find them very distracting, too, due to how the page and background move relative to one another. They require more scrolling to get past.
It takes yet more scrolling to get to the "Tech Specs" link. Of course, it's broken for middle-clicks, so you're forced to open the specs inline. The font is unnecessarily huge, and there's excessive whitespace, resulting in even more scrolling just to view the specs. I don't even see any way to close the tech specs unless you scroll all the way to the bottom of them, and click the "close Tech Specs" link.
Finally, the useful pricing information is way at the bottom of the page, assuming the potential customer has even bothered to scroll this far down.
The useful information could have easily fit within one page that didn't require any scrolling whatsoever, without all of the marketing nonsense, and without the useless space-wasting imagery. I would be very pleased if I never had to encounter a page like that one ever again.
This isn't a product page made for anal programmers who want every bit of information condensed into a box the size of a terminal window. Average consumers are enticed by emotion and this is set to deliver in that respect.
This is newly on google.com for me today, probably for the submitter too: http://i.imgur.com/Xzvk6zj.png
I can't get past the video depicting a 12 year old boy listening to Spoon and watching The King's Speech. Have you ever met a 12 year old boy?
So this is google's crazy impression of what kids look like now. He can listen to 'adult' music/movies, but the guts of this tablet are _completely_ hidden.
When I, and probably much of this site was that age I was dicking around with Linux distros and trying to get nvidia binary drivers to work so I could play quake 3. Then there was that whole thing when I discovered shell scripts and python. There are cs learning apps for android, but nothing like opening up a bash shell in linux and getting the python interpreter and command prompt. Hopefully that kid has access to a real computer, and a bloody password on his account.
When I, and probably much of this site was that age I was dicking around with Linux distros and trying to get nvidia binary drivers to work so I could play quake 3. Then there was that whole thing when I discovered shell scripts and python. There are cs learning apps for android, but nothing like opening up a bash shell in linux and getting the python interpreter and command prompt. Hopefully that kid has access to a real computer, and a bloody password on his account.
Spoon was my favorite band when I was 12.
Now without utterly broken flash memory drivers that cripple performance after a few months of use and took a year to fix!
Amen. As an otherwise satisfied nexus 7 owner (first generation) a lighter and thinner model would be nice considering it is already a go-anywhere device for me.
But the inexplicable slowness as the device ages and memory use grows is a crappy reason to have to upgrade.
It's funny how quickly a market evolves and competition ratchets up. I can buy for $200 a device that gives me capabilities that cost an order of magnitude more 10 years ago, but I also still expect the cheaper device to have robust and long term performance capabilities.
I'll upgrade for "more, better features" but upgrading cause the old one kicked the bucket after a year is asking too much.
And given the market dynamics, even for $200, I'm not being unreasonable! Gotta love capitalism.
But the inexplicable slowness as the device ages and memory use grows is a crappy reason to have to upgrade.
It's funny how quickly a market evolves and competition ratchets up. I can buy for $200 a device that gives me capabilities that cost an order of magnitude more 10 years ago, but I also still expect the cheaper device to have robust and long term performance capabilities.
I'll upgrade for "more, better features" but upgrading cause the old one kicked the bucket after a year is asking too much.
And given the market dynamics, even for $200, I'm not being unreasonable! Gotta love capitalism.
It's because the memory needed to have fstrim run on it regularly. In Android 4.3, this now happens daily. If you're running a device with an earlier version of Android, you can use LagFix (requires root): https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.grilledmon...
> Now without utterly broken flash memory drivers that cripple performance after a few months of use and took a year to fix!
I do not own any Nexus 7 devices but I do recall reading about issues related to degraded flash performance over time for the first generation devices.
I am wondering though how do you know for certain that the newer model device have this resolved ?
I do not own any Nexus 7 devices but I do recall reading about issues related to degraded flash performance over time for the first generation devices.
I am wondering though how do you know for certain that the newer model device have this resolved ?
You can fix it yourself by running fstrim regularly in the form of LagFix: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.grilledmon...
Android 4.3 now runs fstrim daily to alleviate this issue.
Android 4.3 now runs fstrim daily to alleviate this issue.
The Nexus 7 is a pretty nice device at a very good price. Apple needs to reevaluate if its really all about high profit margins or if it wants to get great products in lots of people's hands. The iPad mini is too expensive to have one per person which is a shame.
That said, iOS is still remarkably easier to use than android, especially for kids. And the nexus 7 hardware has a few problems, namely battery life and the odd shape.
That said, iOS is still remarkably easier to use than android, especially for kids. And the nexus 7 hardware has a few problems, namely battery life and the odd shape.
I dont know what tricks this page is doing but vertical scrolling is really choppy on that page.
That’s just Google emulating the real Android experience.
I figuratively snorked at that.
(Did I do it right? We're switching literal/figurative, right?)
(Did I do it right? We're switching literal/figurative, right?)
It is funny that in Canada, I cannot buy the N72013 from the Play Store but I can walk into Staples, The Source, Best Buy, Future Shop, etc, and pick one up for $249.
In fact, I bought my N72013 on the 31st of July and have been playing with it for a week. WTF Google?
In fact, I bought my N72013 on the 31st of July and have been playing with it for a week. WTF Google?
Really like the sticky Buy It Now button on the top right. Interesting idea.
Will this one stop working after 3 months like the Nexus 7 I bought in January did?
The flash memory issue should be gone even in your old nexus 7 after upgrading to 4.3 (and waiting a few days).