What's everyone's thoughts on justin.tv?
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Dangerously addictive. I must have spent two hours looking at that site today.
I'm not gonna lie I watched it a lot tonight. I really would have enjoyed it better if the sound was better though. It was hard to hear the speaker and a lot of the conversations. Wasn't Justin supposed to speak in front of everyone?
Seriously. I am getting close to writing a greasemonkey script or editing my hosts file before this becomes a problem.
Maybe you should worry that by funding justin.tv you've bankrupted future applicants of all their time.
Maybe you should worry that by funding justin.tv you've bankrupted future applicants of all their time.
Doesn't seem sticky enough for me.
Yer basically playing out a concept to see if you can do it and then you can either break it down and turn it into a licensing kit idea for people and get the masses to start creating their own, and adding their own personal style to it.
If you don't sell it ya got about a month until someone learns from your idea and rips it off and now yer bleeding.
Still isn't sticky.
You could play it up more and do more truman like things to it, but then yer dancing into the realm of staged content, and the real effect could wear off, but as if people really think reality shows are all that real anyways, theres always a camera man there watchin people.
I dunno. Still biggest thing for me as a would be watcher, needs stickyness. I like the fact you can embed justin like a widget, and all the bits you have to rss it out etc is nice but overall stick is lacking.
Spend, Build, Learn, Craft, License, Sell thats yer best bet here. I seriously doubt these guys can go a year, and if they could i mean my god, gun to head please, eventually the audience will WANT you to turn the thing off. People like blogs for stories and threads and ideas that get manifested into an entry, in a real time stream, that after thought processing isnt there, so you may see it you may not, stickyness is relying solely on the person in play and whether or not somethings really interesting to see.
Yer basically playing out a concept to see if you can do it and then you can either break it down and turn it into a licensing kit idea for people and get the masses to start creating their own, and adding their own personal style to it.
If you don't sell it ya got about a month until someone learns from your idea and rips it off and now yer bleeding.
Still isn't sticky.
You could play it up more and do more truman like things to it, but then yer dancing into the realm of staged content, and the real effect could wear off, but as if people really think reality shows are all that real anyways, theres always a camera man there watchin people.
I dunno. Still biggest thing for me as a would be watcher, needs stickyness. I like the fact you can embed justin like a widget, and all the bits you have to rss it out etc is nice but overall stick is lacking.
Spend, Build, Learn, Craft, License, Sell thats yer best bet here. I seriously doubt these guys can go a year, and if they could i mean my god, gun to head please, eventually the audience will WANT you to turn the thing off. People like blogs for stories and threads and ideas that get manifested into an entry, in a real time stream, that after thought processing isnt there, so you may see it you may not, stickyness is relying solely on the person in play and whether or not somethings really interesting to see.
What would be better is a well edited documentary, comparing the two biggest start-up incubators Ycombinator and Techstars.
It would be a fantastic promotional documentary for all party's involved. Heck, you could even turn it into some kind of reality Tv show if your wanted to where the 2 incubators compete somehow. 1st season broadcast via Youtube + HD websites. 2nd season via NBC.
It's 1000x better idea for a show than this http://www.iamtheprodigy.com/
its a reality based tv show where 2000 door to door summer salespeople compete to see who can sell the most, what garbage!! The people at Ycombinator and Techstars are the future leaders of the world! How much more interesting can you get!?
If your interested in this idea I will be in the Bay area March 22-27. [email protected]
It would be a fantastic promotional documentary for all party's involved. Heck, you could even turn it into some kind of reality Tv show if your wanted to where the 2 incubators compete somehow. 1st season broadcast via Youtube + HD websites. 2nd season via NBC.
It's 1000x better idea for a show than this http://www.iamtheprodigy.com/
its a reality based tv show where 2000 door to door summer salespeople compete to see who can sell the most, what garbage!! The people at Ycombinator and Techstars are the future leaders of the world! How much more interesting can you get!?
If your interested in this idea I will be in the Bay area March 22-27. [email protected]
There was a documentary done about one of the dot-com busts in 2000. I can't remember the title, but Google may be able to help you.
The problem is that most of work starting a startup is boring. So either a documentary distorts what actually goes on and shows you the interesting parts (like the one above), or you lose interest and forget about it.
My day basically goes:
1. Wake up. Start development VM. Check yCombinator. Reply to a post or two while VM boots up.
2. Implement a feature, or some administrative script, or setup some software package on server, while eating breakfast.
3. Go to day job. Work on somebody else's startup for 8 hours. Use breaks etc. to resource technologies I'll need for that night's programming.
3.b. Sketch out some feature longhand in a notebook on the train home.
4. Come home. Implement the low-hanging fruit that I just researched.
5. Eat dinner
6. Spend 2-3 hours working on some of the larger tasks that need doing.
7. Repeat.
It's pretty productive, but hardly good TV. The documentary would basically be "Jonathan staring at computer. Jonathan staring at computer. Jonathan staring at computer."
I am keeping a blog (poorly - been 2 weeks since I updated) with the day-to-day stuff. But really, that's just "Here's the challenge we just faced. Here's how we solved it. Rinse, lather, repeat."
The problem is that most of work starting a startup is boring. So either a documentary distorts what actually goes on and shows you the interesting parts (like the one above), or you lose interest and forget about it.
My day basically goes:
1. Wake up. Start development VM. Check yCombinator. Reply to a post or two while VM boots up.
2. Implement a feature, or some administrative script, or setup some software package on server, while eating breakfast.
3. Go to day job. Work on somebody else's startup for 8 hours. Use breaks etc. to resource technologies I'll need for that night's programming.
3.b. Sketch out some feature longhand in a notebook on the train home.
4. Come home. Implement the low-hanging fruit that I just researched.
5. Eat dinner
6. Spend 2-3 hours working on some of the larger tasks that need doing.
7. Repeat.
It's pretty productive, but hardly good TV. The documentary would basically be "Jonathan staring at computer. Jonathan staring at computer. Jonathan staring at computer."
I am keeping a blog (poorly - been 2 weeks since I updated) with the day-to-day stuff. But really, that's just "Here's the challenge we just faced. Here's how we solved it. Rinse, lather, repeat."
The documentary is probably startup.com
I thought about that idea too. I definitely think that one of the 8 Y-Combinator teams should get a person to film the whole experience from start to finish. It seems like everyone on this news feed is dying to see how it all is done.
I'm planning on vlogging my startup adventure, not quite as good as a proper documentary but its cheaper
They'll get tons of VC money soon and they'll need it for the bandwidth bills. More people want to film their lives than want to talk into a fixed camera (i.e. YouTube). You need a little new hardware for this though which hurts.
Still, it will be huge. The next YouTube.
Still, it will be huge. The next YouTube.
Excellent. I had a lot of fun watching the tail end of the YC dinner last night.
I don't think they'll have any trouble getting publicity, considering all Justin has to do is tell all the live viewers Digg a link to his show at a certain time. :-)
I don't think they'll have any trouble getting publicity, considering all Justin has to do is tell all the live viewers Digg a link to his show at a certain time. :-)
It's very, very cool. I'm in Canada, and it felt like I was at that party.
I kept having the strange urge to talk directly to people like pg, Trevor Blackwell, Jessica Livingston, as if Justin were some kind of Telepresence bot, or medium. It's weird to think of him walking around, with all these "spirits" in his head.
The robot demo was fascinating, and I love the unscriptedness. I think I prefer that to an edited or scripted documentary. You can infer a lot from the raw data that wouldn't make it through the editorial process.
I kept having the strange urge to talk directly to people like pg, Trevor Blackwell, Jessica Livingston, as if Justin were some kind of Telepresence bot, or medium. It's weird to think of him walking around, with all these "spirits" in his head.
The robot demo was fascinating, and I love the unscriptedness. I think I prefer that to an edited or scripted documentary. You can infer a lot from the raw data that wouldn't make it through the editorial process.
My guess is that the real money here is in a product placement advertising model, rather than licensing the platform.
They'll get some valuable patents for technology they develop, and a few hundred bucks each off the few hundred people who want to broadcast their life 24/7/365. But a big .tv-star will be able to bring in $K a day just to test a Segway, show up at the right restaurant, attend the launch party for a new startup, etc.
They'll get some valuable patents for technology they develop, and a few hundred bucks each off the few hundred people who want to broadcast their life 24/7/365. But a big .tv-star will be able to bring in $K a day just to test a Segway, show up at the right restaurant, attend the launch party for a new startup, etc.
I think the police entering their apartment at 1:40 this morning, guns drawn, is going to make a classic moment for the archives.
I'll be honest, I was thinking I was maybe going to see Justin get shot.
I'll be honest, I was thinking I was maybe going to see Justin get shot.
One day after launch and there's already gold moments like these. It was bad that I kept thinking "Whoa, this is going to make an awesome YouTube video later" as guns were being pointed at them.
Did that happen? I'm jumping into the archive palyer now. The ability to rewind to any point in justins life is amazing :)
whoa, seriouly what did i miss there!? Why did the police enter the apartment?
Apparently someone used a teletype service (intended for the hearing-impaired) to call police and report a stabbing. Police arrived with guns drawn.
( These teletype services are frequently used for credit card fraud as a way for the perpetrator to remain anonymous. )
( These teletype services are frequently used for credit card fraud as a way for the perpetrator to remain anonymous. )
What struck me was how slick the platform was. I don't particularly care to watch Justin for more than just a few minutes, but if it was someone I did want to watch I'd probably load it up every night.
I may be older than your target audience but I think except for the police raid it was rather lame. But then I don't understand the appeal of American Idol or Survivor either
Posted them here: http://news.ycombinator.com/comments?id=5313 before this thread was open.
Prediction: At least two of the first ten .tv-stars will attempt a Borat style character.
It feels like the "Truman Show", except the lead character knows he's being watched.
I love it and I'm rooting for them big time.
JustinTV is SO addictive!
The potential of justin.tv is just phenomenal right now. The platform that they've built is really going to change how entertainment is done.