Ask HN: What company could create an iOS/Android competitor worth adopting?
That includes a new app store that users would trust and developers happy to develop for. That's the part that seems impossible right now.
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I think something like WebOS would make a lot of sense, where the OS can use PWAs as first-class apps. This would mean developers wouldn’t need to specifically develop for it, and it would have a significant functionality from day 1, at least for the basics most people use.
This assumes the websites themselves don’t screw it up with a bunch of splash screens and gates to force users to iOS/Android apps. It’s not just an issue of Apple and Google having a duopoly, a ton of websites actively maintain the status quo and make it difficult for other players to enter the market. There really needs to be legislation to prevent sites from artificially locking users out of the mobile web experience.
This assumes the websites themselves don’t screw it up with a bunch of splash screens and gates to force users to iOS/Android apps. It’s not just an issue of Apple and Google having a duopoly, a ton of websites actively maintain the status quo and make it difficult for other players to enter the market. There really needs to be legislation to prevent sites from artificially locking users out of the mobile web experience.
I think the future of OS is without any apps, only agentic interactions. Chinese has shown something like that https://www.etvbharat.com/en/technology/stepfun-unveils-step.... OpenAI too is moving in this direction.
On July 13, China's StepFun unveiled three major announcements at their launch event in one go—STEPX, the world's first native AI terminal brand built from the ground up for large language models; Step AOS, the world's first agent-native operating system; and STEPX Neo, the world's first large-model-native agent smartphone. I think this is the next generation of mobile operating systems.
It could be Purism, which have already created Librem 5 with its PureOS Store offering free software. My daily driver btw, https://puri.sm/products/librem-5.
Since it runs a desktop GNU/Linux, you can develop and run the same app on mobile and desktop with some adjustments in the interface. It already works well with Firefox and Gnome software. Web apps work too.
Since it runs a desktop GNU/Linux, you can develop and run the same app on mobile and desktop with some adjustments in the interface. It already works well with Firefox and Gnome software. Web apps work too.
The best positioned is Valve/Steam but Nvidia could do it too or Meta.
Valve for sure.
Nvidia seems strange to me because they don't have that kind of software history (not nearly as much application software history as others), but they have capital.
Meta has the application experience, but I don't think it fits the "developer trust" portion of the initial question.
Nvidia seems strange to me because they don't have that kind of software history (not nearly as much application software history as others), but they have capital.
Meta has the application experience, but I don't think it fits the "developer trust" portion of the initial question.
> That includes a new app store
Just as long as using the app store isn't required.
Just as long as using the app store isn't required.
I think you'd have to also support Android apps or something somehow otherwise it's not going to support the apps people rely on and few people will adopt it.
The app stores are a big moat today.
The app stores are a big moat today.
Many could. But no one seems to ready to risk everything to make it popular and widely adopted.