Yahoo returns acquired startup to founders(e27.sg)
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Yahoo returns acquired startup to founders
http://e27.sg/2012/07/24/yahoo-resurrects-indonesias-foursquare-koprol-sign-of-a-more-mayer-ish-approach-to-talent-appreciation/
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If I single handedly write a piece of SW that does "X" and sell it to Yahoo. Can I then make a new site / app that dose "X"?
One example that comes to mind is Miller Puckette, who wrote Max, and then a few years later wrote its main open-source competitor, Pure Data. It seems quite possible to write a clone of your own software without literally writing the same thing, especially if it's been a few years and you have some new ideas about how to do it now. My guess is that doing so would most often be sunk, if it is, by software patents or explicit clauses in the sale terms, rather than copyright.
One example that comes to mind is Miller Puckette, who wrote Max, and then a few years later wrote its main open-source competitor, Pure Data. It seems quite possible to write a clone of your own software without literally writing the same thing, especially if it's been a few years and you have some new ideas about how to do it now. My guess is that doing so would most often be sunk, if it is, by software patents or explicit clauses in the sale terms, rather than copyright.
"If I single handedly write a piece of SW that does "X" and sell it to Yahoo. Can I then make a new site / app that dose "X"?"
Quite often part of the purchase agreement is that you won't build a competitor to X for a certain number of years. Sometimes they go as far as not competing with the acquirer at all for that duration.
And if you use code that was included as part of the purchase, you're playing with fire.
Quite often part of the purchase agreement is that you won't build a competitor to X for a certain number of years. Sometimes they go as far as not competing with the acquirer at all for that duration.
And if you use code that was included as part of the purchase, you're playing with fire.
Unfortunately Yahoo is asking for a lot of money to get their code back. So right now it's just the trademark and the domain.
The company I work for was recently acquired. A part of the agreement for the founders, aside from having to stay with the company for 2 years, is they can't have more than 1% ownership of a competing company for that duration and up to a year after employment termination.
Odd sentence construction:
a rockstar team ... successfully exited the company to Yahoo
I assume this is trying to invoke the jargon use of "an exit", but in this context it has a garden-path reading implying that the team succeeded in quitting the company. I probably would've just said "successfully sold the company".
a rockstar team ... successfully exited the company to Yahoo
I assume this is trying to invoke the jargon use of "an exit", but in this context it has a garden-path reading implying that the team succeeded in quitting the company. I probably would've just said "successfully sold the company".
A somewhat more subtle example of what my friend refers to as "vouns" (ie. nouns used as verbs) - regularly "gifted" to the English speaking peoples of the world by the Americans.
Although exit is of course a verb, it's use in this sentence is pretty confusing given the fact that they're undoubtedly referering to "an exit".
Although exit is of course a verb, it's use in this sentence is pretty confusing given the fact that they're undoubtedly referering to "an exit".
Verbing weirds language. -- Calvin
On behalf of intellectual Americans everywhere. You are encouraged to reject these gifts as we fight the good fight from within.
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How weird. Does anyone know if this is indeed connected to Marissa Mayer? If so, looks like she's off to a pretty good start when it comes to mending Yahoo!'s broken image.
This was already in the works pre-Mayer...
I just hope that MM values inside talent and does not go on a startup shopping spree. Yahoo has great undervalued, underutilized assets, and with Yahoo's distribution and reach it can do great things without overpaying for "frothy" startups with dubious value/products.
"Yahoo has great undervalued, underutilized assets"
Such as? I'm not doubting you, I'm just curious to know.
Such as? I'm not doubting you, I'm just curious to know.
I always thought Yahoo Pipes[1] was an amazing product - especially for when it was first released.
If Amazon had developed it they'd have called it 'Data Processing Services' and charged for how many cycles it took up.
1 - http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/
If Amazon had developed it they'd have called it 'Data Processing Services' and charged for how many cycles it took up.
1 - http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/
Flickr, Yahoo as a portal (5th most visited site in the U.S.), International presence and distribution, Yahoo Finance, Games and Mail.
On top of that, Yahoo ain't financially dead a la Nokia and RIM. Yahoo is very profitable, with billions of revenues and net income. I wouldn't write off Yahoo just yet.
On top of that, Yahoo ain't financially dead a la Nokia and RIM. Yahoo is very profitable, with billions of revenues and net income. I wouldn't write off Yahoo just yet.
Their dev tools are awesome, their APIs are very easy to work with, and their ToS are incredibly permissive.
The next time I'm involved in an acquisition as a founder, I'm going to negotiate clauses to reverse the acquisition based on milestones by the acquiring company. While I would like to think that this should only happen under severe circumstances that one would not usually predict, shit happens. I wasn't prepared or experienced enough to protect myself.
Talent acqhires needs to be clear and not overpromise and under deliver. There's nothing I respect more than transparency, and there's nothing I despise more than koolaid. Koolaid works for some, necessary evil for uniting a company during hard times, but not for the guys (and gals) who've been in the trenches and understand the game. Maybe this is part of the game, but who wants to go through the legal headaches to make an acquisitions and then go back to HR to find human capital replacements 1-2 years in because they got frustrated and left?...
Talent acqhires needs to be clear and not overpromise and under deliver. There's nothing I respect more than transparency, and there's nothing I despise more than koolaid. Koolaid works for some, necessary evil for uniting a company during hard times, but not for the guys (and gals) who've been in the trenches and understand the game. Maybe this is part of the game, but who wants to go through the legal headaches to make an acquisitions and then go back to HR to find human capital replacements 1-2 years in because they got frustrated and left?...
Will be really great if they returned Flickr too. And come back to the acquisitions table once they've figured out their purpose!
[Edited for my stale information on what they did with Delicious, last summer. Phew!]
[Edited for my stale information on what they did with Delicious, last summer. Phew!]
Delicious was sold to the founders of YouTube last year: http://avos.com
any founders will do, they figured.
another article about Koprol: http://dailysocial.net/en/2012/07/24/yahoo-returns-koprol-to...
and this one about the company that will relaunch Koprol http://dailysocial.net/en/2012/07/24/from-the-ashes-of-kopro...
What good is the domain without the code? They could rewrite the code from scratch. Though, that maks me wonder... If I single handedly write a piece of SW that does "X" and sell it to Yahoo. Can I then make a new site / app that dose "X"? Is it copyright infringement (a la the android / oracle Tim Sort) since anything I write that is an identical app is likely to have very similar, if not identical, code?
How much of what is in my head is mine and how much is covered by copyright if I've written it before?