Show HN: Flutter HP Redesign + Play/Pause Spotify, WMP via Gesture on Windows7(flutterapp.com)
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Show HN: Flutter HP Redesign + Play/Pause Spotify, WMP via Gesture on Windows7
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This sounds like an awesome app, however, i think it would be a little bit creepy to have the webcam on whenever i'm using the computer...
Good news is that the app works entirely on your machine locally - no video data ever leaves your computer so hopefully that will alleviate some of your concern. :)
To put it bluntly - I don't know you enough to believe you, but then I am not in your target demographics.
(edit) To elaborate - there are people who care deeply about privacy, and there are those who don't (really) give a damn about it. Former won't touch Flutter with a pole no matter what you say. They won't touch it even if Flutter were open source. I know because I am one of them. Latter group however is substantially larger and it basically includes everyone with a Facebook account. Having built a product that could've been seen as privacy-invasive, I was in a situation similar to yours and the take away was to counter complaints from the former group with a simple "this product is not for you." It saves nerves, time and money.
Great site redesign by the way. Not sure if it'd would help with getting $ customers, but it's certainly un-ordinary.
(edit) To elaborate - there are people who care deeply about privacy, and there are those who don't (really) give a damn about it. Former won't touch Flutter with a pole no matter what you say. They won't touch it even if Flutter were open source. I know because I am one of them. Latter group however is substantially larger and it basically includes everyone with a Facebook account. Having built a product that could've been seen as privacy-invasive, I was in a situation similar to yours and the take away was to counter complaints from the former group with a simple "this product is not for you." It saves nerves, time and money.
Great site redesign by the way. Not sure if it'd would help with getting $ customers, but it's certainly un-ordinary.
Unfortunately, it also means I no longer know if an app is accessing my webcam.
If it gains exclusive control of your webcam, then that's one way of knowing. It would pre-empt any other control.
Excellent redesign of the home page! Huge improvement over your last version.
I wish Flutter would just turn music off when I walked away from the computer and on when I get back. I always forget to turn it back on when I get back, plus it would be nice to not worry about turning it off.
I had to uninstall Flutter because it opened on install and I couldn't find a way to delete it.
I don't have a problem with pausing Spotify because I have play, pause and skip keys on my Mac and I just hate having my webcam on, I know it's not recording or going to the cloud but on the few occasions I tried to put my hand up to pause and play it wasn't fast enough to fit into my workflow.
I see where this can be useful in the entreprise and other areas and as the technology develops it will be important though.
I don't have a problem with pausing Spotify because I have play, pause and skip keys on my Mac and I just hate having my webcam on, I know it's not recording or going to the cloud but on the few occasions I tried to put my hand up to pause and play it wasn't fast enough to fit into my workflow.
I see where this can be useful in the entreprise and other areas and as the technology develops it will be important though.
Thanks for the kind feedback. We have changed it so that on Mac it launch on start is optional. You can also turn it off from top menu bar icon if you have older version. If you have really old version, then download the latest as it is much improved in terms of false positives!
We hope you give us a try after we add few more gestures!
We hope you give us a try after we add few more gestures!
I have the version from when it was first on HN a while back. I will definitely try it out when you have more gestures :).
We just redesigned our Home Page & launched Windows (7) version of our app to join the mac version. Yes, we are aware that everyone wants to a new gesture. It is being tested right now and will be available soon. In the meantime, please send us your feedback on HP as well as Windows App. Thanks in advance from FlutterTeam.
I'm on a Mac and the download button on the new site doesn't appear to do anything.
It should've launched Mac App Store for you as we're available there now: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/flutter/id522248613?mt=12
Let us know if it doesn't work for you!
Let us know if it doesn't work for you!
If you have a browser plugin that blocks mixpanel it doesn't work. This will be fixed asap.
A lot of people struggle to see the point in this past being a cool trick. Personally i find that when im cleaning the house or washing up(N.B. wet hands) that this
App is fantastic. The wait for more gestures is killing me though.
Looks great! I've got a friend who has a set of speakers which come with a separate "control module" which is touch sensitive. It doesn't pause music, but it does a good job of muting it when you need to cut sound quickly - this seems like a superior alternative due to its low cost and ease of use.
Also, just a heads up that your /about/ page and your /jobs/ page have dead links to http://flutterapp.com/jbos at the top and are missing <title> elements. I can also confirm lukifer's CSS bug occurs on FF13/Linux as well.
Also, just a heads up that your /about/ page and your /jobs/ page have dead links to http://flutterapp.com/jbos at the top and are missing <title> elements. I can also confirm lukifer's CSS bug occurs on FF13/Linux as well.
Very unique HP and nice redesign! Personally I would add a little more space between the sections if the page. Just feels a little cramped to me.
Thanks! It was partly inspired by Watchmen but I guess print design rarely translates well into web design. I'll work on it.
Design feedback: some indication that we should scroll down, I didn't notice at first and thought the download button was the main point.
Thank you - great point. Please keep sending all your feedback!
Beautiful and effective design. Kudos!
One note: there seems to be a CSS bug when scrolling right on a browser window less than 1000px wide (Chrome, Mac).
Also: have you considered aiming marketing and features more at the media center market? Every demo pic is of a laptop, and yet turning down the volume from the couch with no remote seems far more useful.
One note: there seems to be a CSS bug when scrolling right on a browser window less than 1000px wide (Chrome, Mac).
Also: have you considered aiming marketing and features more at the media center market? Every demo pic is of a laptop, and yet turning down the volume from the couch with no remote seems far more useful.
The site looks a bit broken on the iPad
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/388004/flutter_one.png https://dl.dropbox.com/u/388004/flutter_two.png
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/388004/flutter_one.png https://dl.dropbox.com/u/388004/flutter_two.png
Have the gesture algorithms changed much at all since the initial HN release? I had to uninstall it as it kept mistaking me touching my face/etc as holding my hand to the camera.
Yes, we've done quite a bit of work since the initial launch just on that. It should be WAY better. Please try and let us know.
Hate to be that guy... But out of I don't know 20 tries it only worked once. Maybe it's because of the room doesn't have enough light..
Really cool concept though.
Really cool concept though.
Hi rbn, possibly it's a light. Would you please do us a favor and send us a video of your lighting - that would help us improve? Also, please make sure that your palm is at least 1 feet away so as to completely visible by webcam.
What kind of implications on battery life does this have? As in, constantly running the webcam.
James. You can easily turn it off thru menu bar icon when not using it.
In our tests it results on ~10-20% additional drain. We hope to make utility high enough so that it doesn't matter.
In our tests it results on ~10-20% additional drain. We hope to make utility high enough so that it doesn't matter.
Really curious: what problem are you solving besides "pausing music when you have many windows open" that would justify saying it is high utility?
Pausing music is a moot point if you use a Mac and iTunes. Speech recognition built into the os can do this.
"can't reach" is such a first world problem that building an application for it is laughable.
Am I missing something?
Pausing music is a moot point if you use a Mac and iTunes. Speech recognition built into the os can do this.
"can't reach" is such a first world problem that building an application for it is laughable.
Am I missing something?
@alttab - thanks for your view point. We meant to say that we will add enough utility overtime. Interestingly enough 80% of our downloads are also non-us so may be it is a wide spread problem. Thx!
What is your revenue model?
I'm not the best guy to value your services as I use bash, vi, and Grep for everything. I understand the love for technology but the amount of time spent building this app seems a little silly considering it is as far from solving world hunger as one could get.
I'm not the best guy to value your services as I use bash, vi, and Grep for everything. I understand the love for technology but the amount of time spent building this app seems a little silly considering it is as far from solving world hunger as one could get.