Show HN: launching photosite next week, please give us cruel feedback
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I didn't sign up.
I've already signed up for Snapjoy, and a slue of other photo apps. I went to your page and couldn't figure out what your product actually was—what the value add was.
This was compounded by the fact that your "handwritten" font choice is impossible to read : "hackers pet invites faster" is what it looks like at the bottom.
Your "Sign In" button is below the fold—this is going to hurt user engagement and confuse users who come back. When I load up the page, fullscreen, on my MacBook Pro, I don't see a "Sign In" button at all. http://cl.ly/2j1S1n1V0Z1f3G0K2D3j
Finally, the "Free with no Limits" thing is scary—especially because, as I mentioned above, I don't know what your product is. The biggest issue and worry with services like these is that you put in all your photos, expecting them to be maintained forever, and then the service goes down in a week. Lots of similar worries were flagged when Snapjoy launched—it might be worthwhile to read their HN thread: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2861515
I've already signed up for Snapjoy, and a slue of other photo apps. I went to your page and couldn't figure out what your product actually was—what the value add was.
This was compounded by the fact that your "handwritten" font choice is impossible to read : "hackers pet invites faster" is what it looks like at the bottom.
Your "Sign In" button is below the fold—this is going to hurt user engagement and confuse users who come back. When I load up the page, fullscreen, on my MacBook Pro, I don't see a "Sign In" button at all. http://cl.ly/2j1S1n1V0Z1f3G0K2D3j
Finally, the "Free with no Limits" thing is scary—especially because, as I mentioned above, I don't know what your product is. The biggest issue and worry with services like these is that you put in all your photos, expecting them to be maintained forever, and then the service goes down in a week. Lots of similar worries were flagged when Snapjoy launched—it might be worthwhile to read their HN thread: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2861515
Thanks for the feedback, we'll try to make stuff more clear on that page. Clear writing is hard. Thanks for the pointer to Snapjoy discussion too :)
(Gush founder here)
(Gush founder here)
And hackers do pet invites faster :)
"Free with no limits"
That right there is why I won't go anywhere near your site. Sorry, but why would I invest my time and energy, and photos, and inviting friends etc if you've got no visible means of supporting yourself? There's a reason I pay good money to Smugmug.
That aside, I have no idea why I would want all my photos on the one site. Is this the "one ring to rule them all"? Do you expect me to point friends, family, clients etc to your site? Is there realtime sync'ing from my computer? I don't understand who this is aimed at and what pain you're solving.
I also find the name a little odd (Gush?!) and the url particularly so. "Gush", in the traditional sense, suggests flow, water, emotional outpouring (ok, good) but you might want to watch out for the colloquial definition: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gush The name also says nothing about photography, nothing about the app and the "get" is awkward (yes, I know other startups have used it but that only makes sense if I'm visiting the site to sign-up. Could you direct your grandmother to "Get Gush"?)
Sorry to be cruel -- I'm not being deliberately mean but you asked for criticism.
That right there is why I won't go anywhere near your site. Sorry, but why would I invest my time and energy, and photos, and inviting friends etc if you've got no visible means of supporting yourself? There's a reason I pay good money to Smugmug.
That aside, I have no idea why I would want all my photos on the one site. Is this the "one ring to rule them all"? Do you expect me to point friends, family, clients etc to your site? Is there realtime sync'ing from my computer? I don't understand who this is aimed at and what pain you're solving.
I also find the name a little odd (Gush?!) and the url particularly so. "Gush", in the traditional sense, suggests flow, water, emotional outpouring (ok, good) but you might want to watch out for the colloquial definition: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gush The name also says nothing about photography, nothing about the app and the "get" is awkward (yes, I know other startups have used it but that only makes sense if I'm visiting the site to sign-up. Could you direct your grandmother to "Get Gush"?)
Sorry to be cruel -- I'm not being deliberately mean but you asked for criticism.
I can explain the free with no limits here. We put no limits on the amount of photos that you can upload. We do put limits on the amount of pixels per photo that we'll store. So we may not store your full-size photo (although we'll store a pretty good version), and that lets us offer this for free (storage is really cheap).
Good stuff, thanks, don't be sorry, it's good feedback! :) (Gush founder here)
Google Search is also free with no limits. Don't you use them? :-)
Two things:
1. This confused me: "Choose a username: (use your real name)". My username is typically different from my real name. Thus, if I should use my real name, just make the field: "What is your name?" Perhaps add ability in settings to change the username/name.
2. Ability to upload photos from the web.
I think the concept is excellent.
1. This confused me: "Choose a username: (use your real name)". My username is typically different from my real name. Thus, if I should use my real name, just make the field: "What is your name?" Perhaps add ability in settings to change the username/name.
2. Ability to upload photos from the web.
I think the concept is excellent.
Good points both, 1. I'll change for next week, 2. we'll put on the roadmap. Thanks!!
I'm friend of one of your developers. I've had alpha access for like a month or so. I've chatted him a bit about the project, but I'll give you some feedback directly.
In short, I think your project is cool but I don't think it is for me. As far as I can tell, you're trying to do a sort of dropbox-style thing, except with images. That's pretty cool (especially the unlimited free storage), but for me I am not really interested. I just don't see the purpose of putting things into the cloud, just because. I have a lot of local storage, and the local storage is faster, and (usually) larger, and not very expensive at all. Sure I run the risk of losing my pictures to a hardware failure, but I mean, oh well, guess I won't have my curated 4chan content anymore.
Overall I think this is pretty cool.
In short, I think your project is cool but I don't think it is for me. As far as I can tell, you're trying to do a sort of dropbox-style thing, except with images. That's pretty cool (especially the unlimited free storage), but for me I am not really interested. I just don't see the purpose of putting things into the cloud, just because. I have a lot of local storage, and the local storage is faster, and (usually) larger, and not very expensive at all. Sure I run the risk of losing my pictures to a hardware failure, but I mean, oh well, guess I won't have my curated 4chan content anymore.
Overall I think this is pretty cool.
Hey, thanks for the feedback :) If it's not for you, that's fine, such is life. I think it's more for people with pictures of their kids and stuff, they tend to care more about not losing them and having them all in one place etc. Thanks again for the comment!
It went to Facebook for permission and pressed "Don't Allow", it returned me back to your website with this message:
"Okay. The Gushbot will be gathering your Facebook photos while we prepare your invite."
I don't have many pictures on Facebook, more on trekearth and flickr. It would be good to bring support to old not so well maintained sites like trekearth. More value, at least for me.
"Okay. The Gushbot will be gathering your Facebook photos while we prepare your invite."
I don't have many pictures on Facebook, more on trekearth and flickr. It would be good to bring support to old not so well maintained sites like trekearth. More value, at least for me.
One of the devs here, Flickr is high up on our priority list - most of us have used flickr pretty heavily and want this feature for ourselves.
You want cruel? I hate private signup/invite sites. It's either ready or it's not and if it's not I'm probably not coming back, ever, no matter what the excuse.
That's one customer less then :) That's ok. I think there are arguments for being in closed beta though. (founder here)
Scammy to ask me to link to FB, give you access to everything, then make me "wait for an invite" or try to get 3 friends to advance my spot.
(founder here) We're not trying to be scammy, it's more so that when you do finally log in, your photos will already be there. But yes, it's definitely something we should work on.
You can easily skip that step though, no harm done.
You can easily skip that step though, no harm done.
Really? And where's the call to action for that? I see a text input box, two buttons for Sharing on FB and Twitter. I also don't understand the significance of the 1-2-3 step indicator. From a UI perspective it doesn't tell me where I am.
Why would I share this to my entire social graph, risking my reputation, if I haven't vetted the product?
Why would I share this to my entire social graph, risking my reputation, if I haven't vetted the product?
We have to improve that page, yes. We're not trying to share anything to your social graph, just to privately import your photos. Gotta make that more clear. Thanks for the feedback, good stuff! (founder here)
Yea I understand you aren't pushing to the graph. The point was that until I actually see/feel/use/fall in love with it (well, not that far) I am very hesitant against sharing about the app in order to get an invite. That's probably just a personal thing.
Also, after receiving an invite, I am urged to create an account and then there is "One last step!"?!???! What's the step? Download a tiny program that watches my computer and uploads photos that it finds. REALLY? Yes, I will be skipping that step.
In the app, it seems to have lost my album structure.
On the upside, the app is FAST.
Now, where is the account delete function?
In the app, it seems to have lost my album structure.
On the upside, the app is FAST.
Now, where is the account delete function?
Hi, gush dev here. I'm curious, why did you so quickly discard the idea of downloading the 'tiny program that watches your computer'? Does the way we present it sound sketchy? Do you use dropbox? Thanks for the feedback :)
Hi gush - Definitely the way things are written and presented can use a bit of polishing and help adoption. I sent an email to your notifier along the same lines. I do have a dropbox account and don't use it very much.
I think overall the concept is very sound, however the details need work and perhaps slowly on boarding the user by proving utility before (seemingly) forcing another step.
I think overall the concept is very sound, however the details need work and perhaps slowly on boarding the user by proving utility before (seemingly) forcing another step.
We're adding that before launch :) We're gonna add the Facebook album structure back in as well. (founder here). Thanks for the feedback!
How can I show my photos to other friends? I don't see any public url
It's a photo site for ALL your photos: every single photo you've ever taken. We still have a long way to go, but trying to launch really early.
You can create an account (hacker news members only) here:
http://getgush.com/i/17p6
Cruel feedback > nice feedback > no feedback.