Thousands More Americans to Die in Heat Waves Unless We Meet Paris Climate Goals(earther.gizmodo.com)
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Thousands More Americans to Die in Heat Waves Unless We Meet Paris Climate Goals
https://earther.gizmodo.com/thousands-more-americans-will-die-in-heat-waves-unless-1835270385
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...not just Americans btw....
Probably fewer Americans than others. See my comment on another thread about air pollution.
Why does this seem to me to be iffy science? Or even that big of a deal?
We could take all the money invested over the next 30 years in combating climate change and save ~90k people in the US, or we could put it into something with real results, such as curing cancer, IMHO.
We could take all the money invested over the next 30 years in combating climate change and save ~90k people in the US, or we could put it into something with real results, such as curing cancer, IMHO.
What's the point of curing cancer if we're all dead?
We won't be dead. Curing cancer will eliminate the effects of air particulate caused-cancer, negating the massive kill-off of humankind by heat waves.
you would not just save 90k people. there is a chance of killing all human life with climate change. any size risk in this area is too big of a risk.
Ah, the "mammals survived the dinosaurs, so the cockroaches will survive the mammals" conjecture. Probably won't happen these next 30 years.
no conjecture needed: there is definitely a risk of catastrophic climate change. the conjecture is:"what is money worth to us if we are all dead"
Life is a risk. I strongly feel opposite to you, that everyone is going to die from a (slim risk of) catastrophic climate change.
Because, as I see it, our efforts at renewable growth will compound over time. It's not like just because the US pulled out of the Paris climate accord that all of a sudden the coal industry will take over US power production. The opposite seems to be happening [1].
This hand wringing seems alarmist to me.
1. https://climatenexus.org/climate-issues/energy/whats-driving...
Because, as I see it, our efforts at renewable growth will compound over time. It's not like just because the US pulled out of the Paris climate accord that all of a sudden the coal industry will take over US power production. The opposite seems to be happening [1].
This hand wringing seems alarmist to me.
1. https://climatenexus.org/climate-issues/energy/whats-driving...
The hand-wringing is alarmist, and deliberately so. Mostly because Carbon Dioxide is simply not a pollutant. There, I said what you cannot say here.
(Notice how the "solution" to these "crisis" problems always requires giving governments ever more expansive power and control. This is by far the most likely path to bloody tyrannies that makes those of the 20th century look like a warmup.)
(Notice how the "solution" to these "crisis" problems always requires giving governments ever more expansive power and control. This is by far the most likely path to bloody tyrannies that makes those of the 20th century look like a warmup.)
it is definitely a pollutant:"A pollutant is a substance or energy introduced into the environment that has undesired effects" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pollutant
The .5C increase from 1.5C to 2C alone will kill an additional 100 million people just from increased particulate air pollution.
Was that in the article? I didn't see it.
Okay, so I looked around and found this tool [1] for World's Air Pollution: Real-time Air Quality Index.
Seems to me that the US is not the biggest offender here, and that maybe the original posted study is using data that could be construed to look bad. Its like they are taking the few bad locations with air pollution and saying the US is screwed.
But broaden the view to include the world, and it seems like the US is the best place to live. Almost as if the US could be the poster child for the Paris climate accord.
1. https://waqi.info/
Seems to me that the US is not the biggest offender here, and that maybe the original posted study is using data that could be construed to look bad. Its like they are taking the few bad locations with air pollution and saying the US is screwed.
But broaden the view to include the world, and it seems like the US is the best place to live. Almost as if the US could be the poster child for the Paris climate accord.
1. https://waqi.info/