Peter Thiel's views on rape and racism(theguardian.com)
theguardian.com
Peter Thiel's views on rape and racism
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/oct/21/peter-thiel-support-donald-trump-date-rape-book?CMP=share_btn_tw
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That headline is a piece of art. Quote:
>Peter Thiel, who gave $1.25m to Trump, has called date rape 'belated regret'
First off, there's the quick shout-out to Trump. Just so you know that you should hate Thiel, because he's associated with Trump, who is bad. Oh, and to implicitly associate Trump further with the rest of the hit piece. Two-for-one here.
And the meat of the issue - the entire point Thiel was trying to make was about how to classify "drunken sex that a woman later regrets". Should we call it rape or date rape? It has some of the characteristics we expect, but lacks many, and there's a thorough and nuanced discussion you could have about it. That discussion isn't going to be found here, though because it's a hit piece. We're just going to assume our categorization is correct, and then use our reader's assumptions to imply that Thiel was talking about a more central example of date rape.
>Peter Thiel, who gave $1.25m to Trump, has called date rape 'belated regret'
First off, there's the quick shout-out to Trump. Just so you know that you should hate Thiel, because he's associated with Trump, who is bad. Oh, and to implicitly associate Trump further with the rest of the hit piece. Two-for-one here.
And the meat of the issue - the entire point Thiel was trying to make was about how to classify "drunken sex that a woman later regrets". Should we call it rape or date rape? It has some of the characteristics we expect, but lacks many, and there's a thorough and nuanced discussion you could have about it. That discussion isn't going to be found here, though because it's a hit piece. We're just going to assume our categorization is correct, and then use our reader's assumptions to imply that Thiel was talking about a more central example of date rape.
Good and nuanced discussion of that topic is incredibly challenging under the best of circumstances. Thank you for commenting and probably helping me keep both feet out of my mouth.
For the sake of clarity, these were his views when he was in college 20 years ago.
No, he has described a specific situation which the supposed victim calls "date rape" but was in fact "belated regret". Which is arguably one of the possible cases when somebody is accused of date rape. People lie, women included. Or want to trap/hurt/blackmail/whatever others:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/11912748/Guilty-...
He didn't say that ALL date rape cases are like that.
Which is what the article and title shows him as having said.
Also this reads more like defamation/gossip than actual news -- and all printed out of the blue based on something he wrote in 1995. Why exactly is this in the news? "He supported Trump now, so let's bring out his dirty laundry"? That's beyond yellow press level.