AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3960X and 3970X Review(anandtech.com)
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AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3960X and 3970X Review
https://www.anandtech.com/print/15044/the-amd-ryzen-threadripper-3960x-and-3970x-review-24-and-32-cores-on-7nm
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The biggest indicator of the success of AMD Threadripper line to me is that Intel has been forced to cut the price of their newly released i9-10980XE CPU by $1000 compared to i9-9980XE while maintaining practically indistinguishable performance.
Great review, but the highlight for me is that windows task manager view of CPU utilization. It's like looking at a spreadsheet:
https://images.anandtech.com/doci/15044/3970X%20Task%20Manag...
https://images.anandtech.com/doci/15044/3970X%20Task%20Manag...
> Last AMD generation was 250W, this one is 280W: if we’re not there already, then this should be a practical limit.
A good point for people looking to use this in their home server like I am. It’s going to be really hot if you’re getting your money out of it.
At some point there’s not an efficient way to cool these processors when the ambient room temperature rises too high. Anyone have suggestions for that? I’m in a weird position where power is cheap but I can’t AC my garage (where it’s located).
A good point for people looking to use this in their home server like I am. It’s going to be really hot if you’re getting your money out of it.
At some point there’s not an efficient way to cool these processors when the ambient room temperature rises too high. Anyone have suggestions for that? I’m in a weird position where power is cheap but I can’t AC my garage (where it’s located).
"AMD Pre-Announces 64-core Threadripper 3990X: Time To Open Your Wallet"
https://www.anandtech.com/show/15151/amd-preannounces-64-cor...
https://www.anandtech.com/show/15151/amd-preannounces-64-cor...
AMD slaps Intel around a bit with a large trout.
Why no compilation benchmarks? Say, a Linux, chromium or GCC compile. All that cache must make it fantastic at compiling.
6 pages of gaming benchmarks and not one compilation speed test. Baffling.
I love it how CPUs have more onboard memory than my whole first computer now.
Respectfully, intel looks like its hiding under a chair by refusing to release anything with similar core counts.
I mean I would also be afraid that Amd has a
> Manufacturing Process
> Performance
> Power Consumption
= IPC
I mean I would also be afraid that Amd has a
> Manufacturing Process
> Performance
> Power Consumption
= IPC
> Thread + Ripper was a clever play on words: anything that had plenty of threads, the hardware was designed to ‘rip’ through the workload.
Tangent, but is this really a play on words? And if so, what is the other meaning here?
I get the meaning where lots of cores are ripping through workload. But the other one I don't. The closest guess I have is that it's like a comic book hero (The Incredible Hulk) ripping through his clothes because he is so big and powerful. And I don't guess it refers to a seam ripper (the sewing tool).
Tangent, but is this really a play on words? And if so, what is the other meaning here?
I get the meaning where lots of cores are ripping through workload. But the other one I don't. The closest guess I have is that it's like a comic book hero (The Incredible Hulk) ripping through his clothes because he is so big and powerful. And I don't guess it refers to a seam ripper (the sewing tool).
Has anyone seen independent reviews for database performance on EPYC 2 / Threadripper 3?
I'd love to recommend the AMD platform for customers with large databases, but there's is zero reputable information available on the Internet. The vendors can't be trusted, because they obviously cheat their ass off, such as Intel disabling security patches, using ludicrous hardware configurations, etc...
I'd love to recommend the AMD platform for customers with large databases, but there's is zero reputable information available on the Internet. The vendors can't be trusted, because they obviously cheat their ass off, such as Intel disabling security patches, using ludicrous hardware configurations, etc...
280W TDP?! That's more than what a large refrigerator uses ..
Any official announcement for 8-channel 4TB LRDIMM TRX80/WRX80 chipset yet? TRX40 is underwhelming compared to high-end x399...
The benchmarks on the Ryzen Threadripper and Zen 9 3rd gen cpus look great. I have been looking to find prebuilt gaming desktops that don't have issues with those chips. Newegg reviews show failures around their units and Amazon isn't much help either. Is this truly a build your own situation? Not necessarily issues with the CPUs but the overall quality of the build and bios issues/DOA status. Any recommendations for BYO or prebuilt options?
it'd be funny if amd came out with something like intel phi pcie cards, after intel discontinued them. But for my mostly unet / fcn, segmentation deep learning models, gpu's will continue to be the goto, until we get into a few hundred cores range...
I started wondering about the physics of removing 280W of heat from the tiny silicon die/dice. Is most of the heat conducted through the metal connections or through the package? What material is the package made of?
32 cores at good price point. Now there's no reason to lease all those VM's and use kubernetes. Unless of course, we are all I/O bound due to the bulk of the work being telemetry and tracking. hmm....
An advice for the younger enthusiasts out there: don't buy this _yet_, it's an overpriced pseudo-workstation platform for now, even if you can afford it.
It's nice to watch (and have) new CPUs pushing the available computing performance up, and bringing new features. With Ryzen 3000/EPYC Rome this finally happened in a meaningful way, and TR is(shortly will be) the most powerful CPU there is. _AND_ Intel is getting kicked in the ass, which is good.
But objectively, even if AMD is better value than Intel now, it still is overpriced.
The first problem is with the launch price. This kind of system maintains the top status for one year or so these days. Then it slips into mainstream level which can be got for 50%, 30% price. Look at what happened to 2950X, or EPYC Milan platforms. They were similarly expensive at launch and they are mainstream performance now, their prices have fallen dramatically as well. (If you want AMD, those are much better choice now.)
The second problem is, the TRX40 motherboards available now are simply underwhelming and disappointing, take a look:
https://www.pcmag.com/feature/372107/first-look-all-the-amd-...
You can get 16,24,32 cores for x $1000, but only 4 channels of memory and 3-4 PCIe slots and 2010-era networking? The Xeon workstation boards are so much better. Here is how you design a motherboard in this price range:
https://www.servethehome.com/supermicro-x11spa-t-motherboard...
It's like mobo manufacturers are thinking, the TR CPUs are cooler than Xeons, let's make a killing on expensive gamer-like motherboards.
If you're after nice punch performance on the cheap, go here, sort by performance, then look for rows with highest value.
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/CPU_mega_page.html
The result for me is, if you're after performance but clever with money, go for 3900X or 3700X on an B450 board, anything else is kind of stupid for most people.
If you're after solid workstation with ECC and 2020-level, connectivity, Intel Xeon W now or wait for better motherboards (unlikely to happen).
It's nice to watch (and have) new CPUs pushing the available computing performance up, and bringing new features. With Ryzen 3000/EPYC Rome this finally happened in a meaningful way, and TR is(shortly will be) the most powerful CPU there is. _AND_ Intel is getting kicked in the ass, which is good.
But objectively, even if AMD is better value than Intel now, it still is overpriced.
The first problem is with the launch price. This kind of system maintains the top status for one year or so these days. Then it slips into mainstream level which can be got for 50%, 30% price. Look at what happened to 2950X, or EPYC Milan platforms. They were similarly expensive at launch and they are mainstream performance now, their prices have fallen dramatically as well. (If you want AMD, those are much better choice now.)
The second problem is, the TRX40 motherboards available now are simply underwhelming and disappointing, take a look:
https://www.pcmag.com/feature/372107/first-look-all-the-amd-...
You can get 16,24,32 cores for x $1000, but only 4 channels of memory and 3-4 PCIe slots and 2010-era networking? The Xeon workstation boards are so much better. Here is how you design a motherboard in this price range:
https://www.servethehome.com/supermicro-x11spa-t-motherboard...
It's like mobo manufacturers are thinking, the TR CPUs are cooler than Xeons, let's make a killing on expensive gamer-like motherboards.
If you're after nice punch performance on the cheap, go here, sort by performance, then look for rows with highest value.
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/CPU_mega_page.html
The result for me is, if you're after performance but clever with money, go for 3900X or 3700X on an B450 board, anything else is kind of stupid for most people.
If you're after solid workstation with ECC and 2020-level, connectivity, Intel Xeon W now or wait for better motherboards (unlikely to happen).
can it run crysis, though?
review
"AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3000 (Castle Leak) Review Roundup"
https://videocardz.com/83333/amd-ryzen-threadripper-3000-cas...
https://videocardz.com/83333/amd-ryzen-threadripper-3000-cas...
All these products are great but I still can't get a Ryzen 9 3950x anywhere for fucks sake. I'm tired of waiting. Amd should work on their supplies.
What does "nm" mean, really?
It's only barely useful to compare generations within one company's fab model.
What's a better measure to use? transistors / m^2 ?
Or at least to label properly as "7 AMD-nm" to avoid false comparison to "Intel-nm"?
It's only barely useful to compare generations within one company's fab model.
What's a better measure to use? transistors / m^2 ?
Or at least to label properly as "7 AMD-nm" to avoid false comparison to "Intel-nm"?