Reading these complaints about Reddit, and having been a long time member of HN as well as Reddit, I would say there are pluses and minuses for HN and Reddit.
There are some great sub-reddits (world news, education, Ask Historians, Ask Science etc.) and there are some echo chambers.
Similarly, there many corporate shill types and 'stuck up' bookish-types on HN , but I found useful stuff in the submissions and comments as well.
'Verbose..repetitive..filler content..5/10 pages useful content, rest is fluff...' these were the reasons I wanted to create a no-nonsense encyclopedia of self help, self improvement and career advice.