Ask HN: What is something you believe that nearly no one agrees with you on?
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Self-driving cars are potentially the greatest threat to human freedom since the advent of the internet.
Why do you say that?
The temptation for abuse seems too great to me. You have to tell a third party (or multiple - the government, law enforcement, your employer, your insurer possibly, or anyone who signs up for the inevitable Google app which plots your driving history) where you want to go and now they not only know who you are, but where you're going and where you've been. Someone else has complete control over the software which determines whether or not you get there (assuming these cars don't have some sort of manual override).
Yes, currently large aircraft operate more or less the same way (and everything is fine until something happens and the pilot realizes they don't actually know how to fly a plane because they've never had to). But people won't be taking planes to the store, or to work (for the most part) or the voting booth or to the hospital or police station or an AA meeting. The intersection of surveillance with physical restriction seems too much. I've got nothing against the technology, I just don't want to see it in widespread adoption. I don't want people in general to become trained to ask permission from black boxes to take them where they want to go.
Though I readily concede I probably seem like someone railing against the evils of the Web in the 90s, since a lot of people on HN think they're brilliant and probably a few actually work on them. It just seems very Orwellian to me.
Yes, currently large aircraft operate more or less the same way (and everything is fine until something happens and the pilot realizes they don't actually know how to fly a plane because they've never had to). But people won't be taking planes to the store, or to work (for the most part) or the voting booth or to the hospital or police station or an AA meeting. The intersection of surveillance with physical restriction seems too much. I've got nothing against the technology, I just don't want to see it in widespread adoption. I don't want people in general to become trained to ask permission from black boxes to take them where they want to go.
Though I readily concede I probably seem like someone railing against the evils of the Web in the 90s, since a lot of people on HN think they're brilliant and probably a few actually work on them. It just seems very Orwellian to me.
While far slower, touring bikes are still an option. I also doubt that motorcycles are going anywhere anytime soon.
That's a good point. In fact didn't a large city turn off its transit service before a planned protest? (I think I remember hearing about that a few years ago.)
I guess in the future the gov could shut down self driving cars going to a planned protest location in the name of safety, etc.
I guess in the future the gov could shut down self driving cars going to a planned protest location in the name of safety, etc.
Ultra-high taxation of the rich will be the only way for the society to survive in the world where most work will be performed by machines.
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Humans have no right to exclude others from areas of land larger than their house and a small garden.
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The only meaningful measure of skill is the amount of pain experienced acquiring it.
The only belief that unites all religions as well as "non believers' is a general agreement that their is always something 'more' to life. In short the only thing anyone agrees on is their is always something 'more' regardless if you believe in god, aliens ... or whatever. The paradox is many people will disagree....and insist on their own religious or ideological box as being the 'only' rendition of "more"...IE Jesus, Allah, YHWH, or even science and any of its practitioners ideological and philosophical leanings (which do exist...ouch!) etc. ha!
Science has convincingly shown that consciousness and perception of "self" is an illusion, and thus acting as if "you" are real, or matter to the universe, is as fallacious and irrational as believing in a supernatural creator or ghosts. "You" are a short-lived perturbation in the block-universe. This reality, in combination with the nevertheless undeniable subjective experience of my own self, narrowly privileges selfish pleasure-seeking over all other moral codes, which themselves are utterly devoid of rational justification.
very interesting.
I would like to see this 'science', that's not voiced argumentatively, just would be of interest. However I posit that consciousness is more than an illusion. I won't type my spaghetti argument here but it is essentially the famous 'I think, therefore I am'. I would agree with you on the irrationality of religion and faith. I choose to be a 'believer' not on purely logical grounds but because of the other benefits it provides to me. Unlike you I feel that intrinsically my 'self' and other people's 'selves' are important and equal. My faith based beliefs provide a foundation for principles that support that conjecture. Essentially my beliefs are not based on the scientific method or on the physical properties of the universe. They are not however 'utterly devoid' of meaning, significance, or benefit.
btw, this s/b a reply to a previous comment as this doesn't answer the question posed.
I would like to see this 'science', that's not voiced argumentatively, just would be of interest. However I posit that consciousness is more than an illusion. I won't type my spaghetti argument here but it is essentially the famous 'I think, therefore I am'. I would agree with you on the irrationality of religion and faith. I choose to be a 'believer' not on purely logical grounds but because of the other benefits it provides to me. Unlike you I feel that intrinsically my 'self' and other people's 'selves' are important and equal. My faith based beliefs provide a foundation for principles that support that conjecture. Essentially my beliefs are not based on the scientific method or on the physical properties of the universe. They are not however 'utterly devoid' of meaning, significance, or benefit.
btw, this s/b a reply to a previous comment as this doesn't answer the question posed.
That people should care that their children's required Google-docs stored (and other methods) essays written in school are also being scooped up and subject to government algorithmic analysis with unknown present and future consequences. This isn't paranoid, it's the current state of things, and no one in either teachers' organizations or parents (or grandparents, uncles, aunts, etc.) seems to care at all about their own children. Apparently no one agrees that it's a problem, since the subject is never brought up or discussed.
when you die, nothing happens. You cease to exist and there is no soul, heaven, hell, - nothing is revealed, you do not become one with consciousness, etc.
But I hope I'm wrong
But I hope I'm wrong
Peter Thiel loves asking this question to startups. What's funny is that writer Sarah Lacy posed it to him once (and uses it regularly at Pando Monthly events), and his answer was apparently, "That's a really hard question to answer."
http://pando.com/2012/04/19/peter-thiels-pointed-questions-t...
http://pando.com/2012/04/19/peter-thiels-pointed-questions-t...
Wow, really? Ok, I believed up until now that nobody on Hacker News would post a naked invitation to trolling...
official story of 9/11 is fabricated lie.
Reincarnation is the most likely explanation for differing talents.
I believe a happy person would be made poorer (in the ways that matter) by winning the lottery. I'm the only person I know who doesn't want to win the lottery.
The great war of the future will not be between nations or religions, but between city folk and rural folk.
Aliens seeded or significantly influenced the development of the human race, a la 'Prometheus'.
Ha, made me smirk. I personally believe in creation. anyways I think it is easy to feel like there is some sort of 'cosmic' intervention beyond evolution, to help people feel a sense of purpose and place in our world and universe.
"...nearly no one agrees with you on"
But at least you have Giorgio Tsoukalos.
But at least you have Giorgio Tsoukalos.
So who created the aliens?
That love really does exist, and will save us all.
Taxation is theft!
Morality is mostly an allusion of circumstance
Humankind is not the end of evolution.
Morality matters, and the lack of it is destroying the planet, the economy, and our families.
I agree very much with this. I'm not sure many people would disagree either...