Someone Is Trying to Trademark Use of "Bitcoin" on Clothing(trademarks.justia.com)
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Someone Is Trying to Trademark Use of "Bitcoin" on Clothing
http://trademarks.justia.com/860/97/bitcoin-86097068.html
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"Is interesting that..."
If a lawyer owns a company that needs legal work, is it so odd that the lawyer does the work? Seems no more odd than an owner that's also a programmer writing software for his business.
If a lawyer owns a company that needs legal work, is it so odd that the lawyer does the work? Seems no more odd than an owner that's also a programmer writing software for his business.
What I found interesting was not that it was a lawyer doing their own work, but that the company was a restaurant and beer spinoff from a legal practice, that so far appears to have had very little to do with clothing. If it was a clothing company that was trying to trademark the use of bitcoin for a line of clothing, that would be one thing, but this seems far more speculative an endeavor.
Seems like a money laundering op from the blurb. Any criminal record?
COMS (hellbanned) wrote the following:
He was involved with Crown Bar and Winston's, two "trendy" expensive LA bars that were popular many years ago. From his website (KAGLEW.COM), about trademarks- http://ale811.wix.com/restaurantgroupla#!Trademark-Considera.... "The name must not be descriptive" "Stay out of the dictionary. If your prospective mark can be found in a dictionary, it has meaning and will be a poor candidate for a trademark." That's cut and pasted from a document on http://patentax.com/ which also advocates bar owners patenting designs of chairs, shelves and dinnerware.
He was involved with Crown Bar and Winston's, two "trendy" expensive LA bars that were popular many years ago. From his website (KAGLEW.COM), about trademarks- http://ale811.wix.com/restaurantgroupla#!Trademark-Considera.... "The name must not be descriptive" "Stay out of the dictionary. If your prospective mark can be found in a dictionary, it has meaning and will be a poor candidate for a trademark." That's cut and pasted from a document on http://patentax.com/ which also advocates bar owners patenting designs of chairs, shelves and dinnerware.
I don't know how someone thinks this is a good idea in the long run. Yeah, I guess you'll make some money at some point, but it also seems like these kinds of shenanigans are only likely to get someone doxxed.
The Bitcoin Foundation needs to make itself useful and quickly challenge/oppose this application.
Any one currently selling BTC clothing would be interested in this. Contact them.
We challenged a patent last year by submitting evidence of prior art. Cost a few hundred $ and not too much time. I'm sure current BTC clothing owners would be incentivised to challenge this in a similar way if it's not too far through the process.
We challenged a patent last year by submitting evidence of prior art. Cost a few hundred $ and not too much time. I'm sure current BTC clothing owners would be incentivised to challenge this in a similar way if it's not too far through the process.
I posted it. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=346005.0
Bitcoin Foundation has already organised a massive PR for Bitcoin in US Senate last week that doubled the value of everyone's holdings. Sounds useful to me.
Bitcoin Foundation[0] don't have any particular ownership of the term 'Bitcoin'.
In terms of financial services it is trademarked to Mt Gox in various jurisdictions, as a result of a trademark spat some years ago.
[0] a fair number of people object to the prefix 'The' so I omitted it.
Edit: as to 'prior art' challenges, those aren't significant in first-to-file jurisdictions such as Europe.
In terms of financial services it is trademarked to Mt Gox in various jurisdictions, as a result of a trademark spat some years ago.
[0] a fair number of people object to the prefix 'The' so I omitted it.
Edit: as to 'prior art' challenges, those aren't significant in first-to-file jurisdictions such as Europe.
as to 'prior art' challenges, those aren't significant in first-to-file jurisdictions such as Europe.
That's not true. First, this is a trademark, not a patent, so first-to-file is irrelevant. Second, prior art is still significant in first-to-file jurisdictions, it just has to be published (i.e., it can't be secret).
That's not true. First, this is a trademark, not a patent, so first-to-file is irrelevant. Second, prior art is still significant in first-to-file jurisdictions, it just has to be published (i.e., it can't be secret).
No one should have "ownership" over the word bitcoin in trade. The Bitcoin Foundation was ostensibly created to protect bitcoin. The duty of handling Whac-A-Mole® annoyances like this is expected of them.
The Bitcoin Foundation should definitely own the TM. I'm not surprised that the trolls have appeared.
No one should own the name. Bitcoin was put into this world to be decentralized and for everyone. Use it as you wish in your trade. Claiming exclusivity to "Bitcoin" in most industries now would be like claiming exclusivity to the terms "Email" and "Internet."
They can't even run a forum.
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KAGLEW was created by Charles Lew and Alex Kagianaris, partners in the boutique law firm, Kagianaris Lew LLP. They are recognized as a highly motivated and committed, demonstrating extensive experience in restaurant development and management. They are currently involved in several restaurants, bars/lounges, and development projects in the Los Angeles area; all of which showcase their expertise with prominent success rates and notable recognition.
Today, in this tough economy, KAGLEW is proud to identify and present hospitality and restaurant ventures as commercial opportunities for themselves and their investors. KAGLEW structures deals for maximum returns and is an invaluable resource for creating and building wealth in commercial properties. Some exciting projects KAGLEW has recently developed are the organic vodka from Hawaii, Ocean Vodka, the highly publicized Crown Bar in West Hollywood and the popular Gasser LOUNGE in Redondo Beach. STOUT, the latest venture from KAGLEW, is bringing together two of the fastest growing commodities in the restaurant industry – gourmet burgers and craft beer. KAGLEW is positioning STOUT as a high volume high return asset and has plans to open multiple locations in Southern California and beyond.
I guess they are not doing as well as they hoped in restaurants and craft beers then.