Prehistoric flute in Germany is oldest known(news.yahoo.com)
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Prehistoric flute in Germany is oldest known
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090624/ap_on_re_eu/eu_germany_prehistoric_flute
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Makes me wonder how it was invented. Directly, or maybe there were some incremental steps? Would I have invented a flute?
HN submission of link to New York Times article on same archeological find, with perhaps some different details:
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=672935
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=672935
Geez, they don't even tell us what kind of scale it's tuned to?
They played a couple of recreated samples on NPR. One sounded roughly pentatonic to me; the other sounded... of indeterminate scale and/or out of tune. It's hard to say exactly how it would have sounded, because the flute allows a lot of room for bending the pitch based on things like embouchure and whatnot (I'm a former flutist).
Check it out for yourself:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1058231...
Check it out for yourself:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1058231...
It may simply be in a different temperament or just/pure intonation rather than out of tune. I'm rather curious if anyone can work it out.
http://www.kylegann.com/microtonality.html
http://music.cwru.edu/duffin/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musical_temperament
http://www.kylegann.com/microtonality.html
http://music.cwru.edu/duffin/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musical_temperament
msluyter, do you know what flutes (and other wind instruments) are generally tuned to these days? I noticed some of my sister's clarinet music books show different fingerings for sharps and flats so presumably an extended meantone? Ta :-)
Modern flutes are all in C. Not sure what you mean by "extended meantone." Most wind instruments can have slightly different fingerings for the same note (more prevalent in clarinet than flute, actually). These may have slightly different intonation/sound. Perhaps that's what you're seeing?
> Perhaps that's what you're seeing?
Indeed yes, I'm talking about what temperament they use not what key they are in. Check the articles I posted if you're interested.
EDIT: could be this..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_musical_system
Indeed yes, I'm talking about what temperament they use not what key they are in. Check the articles I posted if you're interested.
EDIT: could be this..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_musical_system
Clarinets are in A or B bémol iirc.
Harmonie erst. (Our german mates will have to let me know if I am anywhere near grammatical correctness).
That doesn’t make any sense whatsoever. Sorry.
Ah, well. It was an attempt at saying "Harmony first." Verdamung babelfish.
That would be: Harmonie zuerst.
But "Harmonie" does not have the same (con-) notation in German as "harmony" has in English.
And "Verdamung babelfish." could be taken that you wish babelfish would turn into a lady ("Dame"). ;o)
But "Harmonie" does not have the same (con-) notation in German as "harmony" has in English.
And "Verdamung babelfish." could be taken that you wish babelfish would turn into a lady ("Dame"). ;o)