Ask HN: Where do you host your NodeJS applications?
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A second-hand IBM X3650 in my basement. 16GB RAM, dual quad-core 3Ghz Xeons, dual power supplies, and hot-swap RAID 5 drives for less than $400 on eBay, connected through the Comcast connection I already have. The Comcast connection is the weak link. Google fiber would be so nice.
I love those cheap refurbished IBM X servers. I use the tower models as workstations.
Since so many people here are saying Heroku, Linode, or AWS, I'm wondering if someone could explain the value proposition of these over a cheap VPS for most small to medium deployments.
I can get a 4GB ram VPS for $10/m, which seems orders of magnitude cheaper than the popular options. What am I missing out on?
I can get a 4GB ram VPS for $10/m, which seems orders of magnitude cheaper than the popular options. What am I missing out on?
For heroku and other PaaS's, there's no need to manage a server. Don't need to set it up, don't need to maintain it, keep software up to date, etc.
Publishing to Heroku is as simple as 'git push'. Scaling is super easy too. Need a second instance of your webserver? 'heroku ps:scale web=2' is all you need to do.
Re: Heroku, free > not-free
4GB is unnecessary for small apps that aren't doing alot.
Managing a VPS takes non-zero time, heroku takes as close to zero time as required.
Your use case sounds different though, hence you're probably not missing anything.
Kool-aid
Heroku at the moment. It has a good selection of add-ons (neo4j hosted for free) and I've found it "good enough". I have used nodejitsu before but when they bumped up all their prices for seemingly no reason, I left. Nodejitsu supports websockets whereas heroku only supports polling. Deploying to nodejitsu was a tonne faster than heroku.
I haven't tried Nodejitsu yet, but their pricing looks really good because they have a $9/month plan for low volume web apps. My gripe about Heroku (which I have used on customer and my own projects) is that the minimum monthly price to get always-on service is $35/month. (The free tier unloads your app if it has no traffic for a while so the next user waits for a loading request). I have several personal projects that I want always-on, but they are low traffic apps.
It is very easy to set up a service to ping your app once an hour to circumvent this.
Have used Heroku, Dotcloud and AWS Elastic Beanstalk, all with good results.
Also hosting a few private apps on a digital ocean vps using dokku[1] which is working pretty well so far.
1. https://github.com/progrium/dokku
Also hosting a few private apps on a digital ocean vps using dokku[1] which is working pretty well so far.
1. https://github.com/progrium/dokku
Azure offers a free tier and hosts nodejs native: http://www.windowsazure.com/en-us/develop/nodejs/
(Disclaimer: Only used it for a simple app)
(Disclaimer: Only used it for a simple app)
Their node stuff is hosted on Windows, so some compiled modules will fail. Also, have had the deployment status lie to me a _lot_. Big green ticks when my app failed to deploy. Telling me the app has been updated to a new commit while still blithely serving the old version for _three days_.
So far I've been using Heroku, but lately as the apps I've been trying to put together have begun to have more interconnected pieces, their service has started to become stifling. For example, getting nginx to proxy to Node requires convoluted setups like "buildpacks" and other Heroku-specific custom configs all of which can be alleviated by switching to a VPS, which is what I'm planning to do in the coming months.
EC2 for some things, dedicated hardware for some others.
Where it sits, however, is only part of the problem!
I use plz[1] and instagit[2] in tandem via post-receive hooks to do the "deployment" bit, along with a service registry (closed-source, written on work time, boo!) like seaport[3] and a proxy based on httppp[4] to route requests to the right application.
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1. https://github.com/deoxxa/plz
2. https://github.com/deoxxa/instagit
3. https://github.com/substack/seaport
4. https://github.com/deoxxa/httppp
Where it sits, however, is only part of the problem!
I use plz[1] and instagit[2] in tandem via post-receive hooks to do the "deployment" bit, along with a service registry (closed-source, written on work time, boo!) like seaport[3] and a proxy based on httppp[4] to route requests to the right application.
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1. https://github.com/deoxxa/plz
2. https://github.com/deoxxa/instagit
3. https://github.com/substack/seaport
4. https://github.com/deoxxa/httppp
I'm going to try modulus.io later on today.
Obviously I don't have an opinion yet but my reason for giving it a try is that I've been told you get a free database instance in the same data center as your node instance, which is obviously good from a latency point of view.
Obviously I don't have an opinion yet but my reason for giving it a try is that I've been told you get a free database instance in the same data center as your node instance, which is obviously good from a latency point of view.
I'm very curious modulus. Anyone else have any experience using them?
I just used them for a small project and was really happy with it. They provide just a couple environment vars attached to the process object and you're good to go.
I was talking to some of their employees at nodeconf this year and they explained that since Heroku only routes one request to an instance at a time, it essentially blocks on each request and you never get to actually leverage the concurrency of node.
I was talking to some of their employees at nodeconf this year and they explained that since Heroku only routes one request to an instance at a time, it essentially blocks on each request and you never get to actually leverage the concurrency of node.
I'm hosting on a Joyent SmartOS instance where the Node.js application is kept alive using the Service Management Facility (SMF).
I recently tried Heroku and Nodejitsu (business account) and ended up going back to Joyent.
I recently tried Heroku and Nodejitsu (business account) and ended up going back to Joyent.
Just to list some of the most popular choices:
Heroku
Nodejitsu
VPS
Linode
Digital Ocean
Amazon AWS
dotCloud
OpenShift
CleverCloud
NodeJS Cloud (by CleverCloud)I'll say check out Modulus (http://modulus.io) we're new but things are very well.
Disclaimer: I'm one of the co-founders.
Disclaimer: I'm one of the co-founders.
I currently use a couple of things:
* Heroku
* ec2 using awsbox for dev with push deploys https://github.com/mozilla/awsbox
If you want SSL support and have a few apps then heroku can be a bit expensive, also monitoring is a paid addon.
Lots of choices at the moment which is awesome.
* Heroku
* ec2 using awsbox for dev with push deploys https://github.com/mozilla/awsbox
If you want SSL support and have a few apps then heroku can be a bit expensive, also monitoring is a paid addon.
Lots of choices at the moment which is awesome.
I just wrote up an eval of 11 popular node providers https://seroter.wordpress.com/2013/07/29/where-the-heck-do-i...
If you are looking for a self hosted solution I would recommend taking a look at Dokku. Its like a self hosted mini version of Heruko.
https://github.com/progrium/dokku
https://github.com/progrium/dokku
In my organization, we have a data center. For my own side projects, I have used linode, but I am considering looking at PAAS solutions if they aren't too expensive.
NodeCloud is great for scalable and custom tailored Nodejs infrastructure - http://nodecloud.io/
Linode. It's cheap and gives me full control, though I would be curious to see how its cost to scale is vs. other "cloud" platforms.
AWS Elastic Beanstalk. I was going with the heroku route at first, until they wanted to charge me $20 a month to enable SSL support for my app!
I'm going through the exact same transition right now. $20/month is more than the cert itself.
IIRC it's because they can't just attach an extra IP to their load balancers for each SSL site, since Amazon doesn't allow you to attach multiple elastic ips to one instance. So, they need to use an elastic load balancer for each site, which costs $18 per month + bandwidth. So they are probably actually just breaking even or losing money on that $20/month fee.
6 different apps, one of which hosts 12 blogs, all on a $1/mo. 128MB RAM Hosted w/SSD. Node, good stuff..
there is http://www.clever-cloud.com/ and the http://nodejs-cloud.com/ services :-) no PRISM issue on it & auto scaling
Could this post be made into a poll?
EC2, for no other reason that's where my company hosts all its apps.
Also nodejitsu for Plunker.
VPS (debian) needed websockets and SSL
the most popular ones I hear from hackernews and reddit prog seems to be
microsoft azure
heroku
digital ocean
linode
amazon aws
dotcloud
openshift
openstack
google appengine
can anyone tell me the pros and cons of each?I doubt there will be one who who tried them all though...
microsoft azure
heroku
digital ocean
linode
amazon aws
dotcloud
openshift
openstack
google appengine
can anyone tell me the pros and cons of each?I doubt there will be one who who tried them all though...
Digital Ocean
Heroku
Heroku
VPS or Heroku
digitalocean
Me too. I'd love to use Heroku/AppFog/whatever but there always seems to be a snag (no websockets, no UDP traffic, bleh).
Might have to try Nodejitsu one of these days but the pricing kind of pains me when I think about how many low-traffic node apps I can host on a $5 DO.
Might have to try Nodejitsu one of these days but the pricing kind of pains me when I think about how many low-traffic node apps I can host on a $5 DO.
Seconded. For our production game servers we've only used EC2 but a couple of us have started working with digitalocean for our own projects & are very happy with them all around.
Linode
EC2
Linode
VPS
VPS
Linode
OpenShift
reliablesite.net
heroku
nodejitsu