Yahoo Quietly Pulls The Plug On Geocities(techcrunch.com)
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Yahoo Quietly Pulls The Plug On Geocities
http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/23/yahoo-quietly-pulls-the-plug-on-geocities/
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What you describe sounds like the restaurant (hospitality) life cycle.
It's like any entertainment, if it gets stale, people move on. I also think of all those post WW2 neighborhood restaurants and bars that slowly sunk into oblivion.
Here's just one opinion piece on the restaurant topic that lists the following:
It's like any entertainment, if it gets stale, people move on. I also think of all those post WW2 neighborhood restaurants and bars that slowly sunk into oblivion.
Here's just one opinion piece on the restaurant topic that lists the following:
Stage 1: Grand Opening & Awesome Service
Stage 2: Building Towards Peak Crowds
Stage 3: Staff and/or Owner Turnover
Stage 4: Sinking Towards Shit Ass Service
Stage 5: Disaster!!!
Please pursue that thought to a full blown article. You might be onto something here:
"Many people clearly want a 'home' on the net with a structured community..."
"Many people clearly want a 'home' on the net with a structured community..."
This is all ^his fault.
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dd93s8qb_37dqrnxjdk
anigbrowl:
If you're an industry social media analyst, then you're one sloppy SOB and you need to tidy up your essays.
but,
If you're not paid full time to do social media research, or if you're not doing a PhD on the subject, then please accept my humble "WTF", for you are one smart SOB. What you have produced is the meeting of the American Mathematical Society and 4Chan: an epic lore of the interwebs and a testament to your eternal pwning of intellectual rigor. You the (wo?)man, Sensei!
If you're an industry social media analyst, then you're one sloppy SOB and you need to tidy up your essays.
but,
If you're not paid full time to do social media research, or if you're not doing a PhD on the subject, then please accept my humble "WTF", for you are one smart SOB. What you have produced is the meeting of the American Mathematical Society and 4Chan: an epic lore of the interwebs and a testament to your eternal pwning of intellectual rigor. You the (wo?)man, Sensei!
:blush: thank you. Just some ideas that were kicking round while I was failing to do much work today. You've inspired me to develop it further though.
Yeah, but you have to admit Geocities survived a long time; it's been around eons in Web time.
But for how much of that time was it seen as a slum?
GeoCities’ traffic has been falling over the past year. According to ComScore, GeoCities unique visitors in the U.S. fell 24 percent in March to 11.5 million unique visitors from 15.1 million in March of 2008. Back in October, 2006, it had 18.9 million uniques.
Funny how 11MM uniques is not enough for a Yahoo! product where as if a small startup was doing that much (and monetizing better than cp{c,a,m} ads) they would be making a killing...
Funny how 11MM uniques is not enough for a Yahoo! product where as if a small startup was doing that much (and monetizing better than cp{c,a,m} ads) they would be making a killing...
Depends on per user cost.
I'm glad that they're not immediately deleting existing sites. I have old geocities sites up that I never really backed up (from when I was a teen) and I have no idea what the username or passwords are.
Now's the time to wget --mirror them
Now's the time to wget --mirror them
A few months back, I wanted to get some orphaned files from my ancient Geocities page. I remembered my username (now of the form username.geo) but the password wasn't coming to me. I tried to recover my password but none of the 20 email addresses I gave them was right. Eventually, after being on the phone with customer service and brainstorming every email address I have ever had, the password came back to me -- the original, four-letter dictionary word assigned as the default when I signed up in early 1995.
So, uh, just think about it too much for a few hours and it might come back to you.
So, uh, just think about it too much for a few hours and it might come back to you.
Conveniently, I don't have anything that's inaccessible from the main page, so a simple
Stripping out the auto-added ads was easy enough to not be a big deal. But hey, if you can actually remember your passwords, more power to you. Maybe if I get bored, I'll try to figure it out and see if I had anything I had uploaded there for posterity, but I don't think so.
wget --mirror http://www.geocities.com/my/path
Stripping out the auto-added ads was easy enough to not be a big deal. But hey, if you can actually remember your passwords, more power to you. Maybe if I get bored, I'll try to figure it out and see if I had anything I had uploaded there for posterity, but I don't think so.
It's time to admit that the Web was never intended for long-term storage, with staunch personal sites the rarity, and fads, and news (up to 4 weeks old) is the trend. It's just a total failure, archive-wise.
Note: Why don't they just sell Geocities to someone who'll keep it going?
Note: Why don't they just sell Geocities to someone who'll keep it going?
If you sell Geocities, then you can't convert them to paying customers of Yahoo web hosting. You can't convert them to Yahoo anything at that point.
If you publicly mothball GC though, then you can maybe get a fraction (5-10% at most I'd guess) to become paying users at SOME level.
Even at that meager conversion rate, I see that being a better call then selling the remnants of GC off.
If you publicly mothball GC though, then you can maybe get a fraction (5-10% at most I'd guess) to become paying users at SOME level.
Even at that meager conversion rate, I see that being a better call then selling the remnants of GC off.
I wonder if the internet archive could make a final complete archive before it closes.
It's not closing right? Just stopping new users from creating accounts.
I think it's closing later this year
"Existing GeoCities accounts have not changed. You can continue to enjoy your web site and GeoCities services until later this year. You don't need to change a thing right now — we just wanted you to let you know about the closure as soon as possible. We'll provide more details about closing GeoCities and how to save your site data this summer, and we will update the help center with more details at that time."
http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/geocities/geocities-05.html
"Existing GeoCities accounts have not changed. You can continue to enjoy your web site and GeoCities services until later this year. You don't need to change a thing right now — we just wanted you to let you know about the closure as soon as possible. We'll provide more details about closing GeoCities and how to save your site data this summer, and we will update the help center with more details at that time."
http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/geocities/geocities-05.html
People can now transfer content to a blog site, Ning, or a place like HubPages.Com (the site where I work).
I think it's a real loss for Yahoo. Even if it doesn't bring in that much money, it is 11.5 unique visitors a month.
I think it's a real loss for Yahoo. Even if it doesn't bring in that much money, it is 11.5 unique visitors a month.
I'm always conflicted on these things. For privacy's sake, I don't want every little thing I posted on my angelfire page many years ago to be a part of the world's permanent record on me. But I can't help but feel we are losing a lot of valuable information about ourselves when these things go.
I dunno, maybe if we had a way to keep it around but under a lock and key. Then we could release our incessant teenage babbling's when we think they are "cute" rather than "just crazy enough" to draw the ire of some h.r. sheriff.
I dunno, maybe if we had a way to keep it around but under a lock and key. Then we could release our incessant teenage babbling's when we think they are "cute" rather than "just crazy enough" to draw the ire of some h.r. sheriff.
As previously mentioned in the thread, a wget --mirror http://www.geocities.com/my/path will save your site.
Good time for Weebly to issue a statement (press release, etc.) calling for all Geocities customers. It's a "Statue of Liberty" moment - "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe a free website" - Be Bold Weebly... call Yahoo out and get some free press.
What a reminder how the Web keeps changing. I remember when I thought Geocities was kinda cool. Can't really remember too many sites like that-- which remained essentially unchanged, yet had such a userbase for so long. In fact, I can't think of one other.
GeoCities was my first site. Being given a chance to play with HTML (4.0 was still cutting edge) is what drew me into the tech world and led to the career I now have. I'm sad to see it go, but it's function has been replaced by numerous other sites and Yahoo! doesn't have any reason to keep it going/growing.
Wow...I've had a GeoCities site since 1997. I think the last time I updated it was in...2002?
Hmm, I always preferred Angelfire. My first websites were on Angelfire, years ago.
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I'm surprised to find out that geocities still exists.
ah, it's the end of an era ... i'll miss it.
Is it me, or do all portal-type services seem to go through the same curve, since CompuServe to Facebook? Unified interface and handy tools excite early adopters, interest scales in sigmoid fashion, plateaus, and diminishing returns set in as the signal-to-noise ratio declines, followed by profitability.
It seems to happen over and over again, like waves on the seashore. Many people clearly want a 'home' on the net with a structured community...much the same way people like suburban tract housing with homeowner's associations. Every few years someone makes fat money by finding a new way to cater to these people, few of whom want to maintain their own domain or pages. Numerous me-too sites grab a small slice of this (like facespace.com...really). 5 years later, it's like that nightclub down the street that used to be so cool.