The Economics of Netflix's $100 Million Show(theatlanticwire.com)
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The Economics of Netflix's $100 Million Show
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/technology/2013/02/economics-netflixs-100-million-new-show/61692/
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I signed up because of House of Cards, so I guess that's one account closer to their target ;)
I really enjoyed the series, I expected to be disappointed because most US remakes of UK shows are abysmal - and the original is a stone cold classic, but I thought it was stunning and really enjoyed Spacey's FU 2.0.
I really enjoyed the series, I expected to be disappointed because most US remakes of UK shows are abysmal - and the original is a stone cold classic, but I thought it was stunning and really enjoyed Spacey's FU 2.0.
I would have preferred they spent a few hundred million per year on lobbying and amicus briefs to urge Congress and the Courts to adopt compulsory licensing. Then Netflix would be able to stream HBO shows without HBO's permission for a reasonable fixed fee. So could Amazon, and Hulu, and Google Play.
All of them could compete on service, rather than in backroom negotiations.
Instead, consumers should look forward to a war of content exclusivity deals, which should be a boon to content owners, and ultimately lead to increasing prices or decreasing convenience for consumers.
All of them could compete on service, rather than in backroom negotiations.
Instead, consumers should look forward to a war of content exclusivity deals, which should be a boon to content owners, and ultimately lead to increasing prices or decreasing convenience for consumers.
Lobbying against the MPAA would not be cheap and would take many years to be successful, years that Netflix doesn't have.
Building a content brand isn't going to be cheap or short term either.
And the MPAA isn't so formidable an enemy. They lose on issues like SOPA that receive any sort of public attention, because they don't have a populist message. Both sides of the aisle* have basically abandoned them looking for the next grassroots internet issue.
And this isn't that high of a hurdle. We already secured similar compulsory distribution rights for radio and cable without any concerted lobbying effort, because it's a really common sense solution that benefits consumers and producers. There's not as much legislative or judicial inertia on these issues as it might seem.
As to cost, Netflix is spending $100 M per show and doing 5 shows a year (maybe the others are significantly less?). But for just 0.3% of one show per year, you get a top lobbying firm. I'd be willing to bet other distributors would pitch in to defray the cost.
That's more pressure than this issue has ever seen, and it's an issue that's already been won in other domains. Given that history, I don't think it'd take more than two years of effort. Maybe five?
While Netflix is seeing revenues of just under a billion dollars a quarter, they'll be fine for a while.
Pricing: http://lobbying101.wordpress.com/about-lobbyists/how-much-do...
*UPDATE: I should have said "some individuals from both sides of the aisle," I didn't mean to claim the MPAA has lost all support, just that cracks are starting to show.
And the MPAA isn't so formidable an enemy. They lose on issues like SOPA that receive any sort of public attention, because they don't have a populist message. Both sides of the aisle* have basically abandoned them looking for the next grassroots internet issue.
And this isn't that high of a hurdle. We already secured similar compulsory distribution rights for radio and cable without any concerted lobbying effort, because it's a really common sense solution that benefits consumers and producers. There's not as much legislative or judicial inertia on these issues as it might seem.
As to cost, Netflix is spending $100 M per show and doing 5 shows a year (maybe the others are significantly less?). But for just 0.3% of one show per year, you get a top lobbying firm. I'd be willing to bet other distributors would pitch in to defray the cost.
That's more pressure than this issue has ever seen, and it's an issue that's already been won in other domains. Given that history, I don't think it'd take more than two years of effort. Maybe five?
While Netflix is seeing revenues of just under a billion dollars a quarter, they'll be fine for a while.
Pricing: http://lobbying101.wordpress.com/about-lobbyists/how-much-do...
*UPDATE: I should have said "some individuals from both sides of the aisle," I didn't mean to claim the MPAA has lost all support, just that cracks are starting to show.
The article assumes that half a million customer will pay for 2 years. I don't get how allowing a customer to watch all episodes in 1 month will help recurring revenues. Sure, people might get hooked on Netflix after that but I fear that past the initial "wow, Netflix can produce stuff too!" excitement, it will end up being just another show available.
They should have done this with Stargate Universe. Easily would have got 500k subscribers.
As much as I love stargate universe I don't think it would be the best place to start. The audience is a bit narrow and fragmented, they created a lot of disillusioned fans when they cancelled Atlantis and changed the format so much.
Would be great to see a new Star Trek series with SGU like production (visually the show looked great).
Would be great to see a new Star Trek series with SGU like production (visually the show looked great).
This is what Spotify and others like them need to do, too - try to take away artists from the labels. But I think Spotify already signed a non-competing contract with the labels.
This article is skeptical, but in a strange way. The basic argument amounts to "the existing models work so why would netflix do anything else". Useless.
Netflix is one of the pushers to standardize DRM in HTML:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013Jan/0172...
So I don't see their growth as a good thing.
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013Jan/0172...
So I don't see their growth as a good thing.
Would you rather they use Silverlight forever instead? Without some form of DRM on playback, there is no Netflix (or Hulu or any other legit web-based streaming for premium content).
I'd rather them not use DRM at all. I don't use them precisely because of their DRM proliferation. But it's not the point - the point is that DRM is a dying trend altogether, and making it a Web standard is nonsensical. It's not different from proposing to make Flash or Silverlight a Web standard, when the whole Web is shifting to move to pure HTML. That's besides the mere fact that DRM is unethical and goes against the whole notion of the open Web.
> the point is that DRM is a dying trend altogether
Amazon, Apple, Netflix, Steam, Microsoft, Sony and Spotify all disagree with you. DRM isn't dying, the goalposts have just moved. I think people are starting to become more educated on what is and isn't acceptable DRM. If it's handled transparently then most people don't care. If it is handled poorly (I'm looking at you Installshield) then it's the nightmare we imagined.
There are certain things I can accept DRM on, streaming movies from Netflix, streaming movies from Spotify, cheap games from Steam, and reasonable SaaS subscriptions. And there are some things even I won't accept DRM on, ever. My music collection and my book collection, mainly. I'll pay the rent price for a game or movie, but I'll never pay the owner price and have you rent it to me. That's how I see DRM and that is how I instruct others to treat it.
Amazon, Apple, Netflix, Steam, Microsoft, Sony and Spotify all disagree with you. DRM isn't dying, the goalposts have just moved. I think people are starting to become more educated on what is and isn't acceptable DRM. If it's handled transparently then most people don't care. If it is handled poorly (I'm looking at you Installshield) then it's the nightmare we imagined.
There are certain things I can accept DRM on, streaming movies from Netflix, streaming movies from Spotify, cheap games from Steam, and reasonable SaaS subscriptions. And there are some things even I won't accept DRM on, ever. My music collection and my book collection, mainly. I'll pay the rent price for a game or movie, but I'll never pay the owner price and have you rent it to me. That's how I see DRM and that is how I instruct others to treat it.
DRM isn't dead, and its not going away any time soon. Although iTunes dropped it for music, they still use it for all video contents and of course apps. Spotify uses DRM for their content as well.
I'll be honest, I used to be a DRM hater, like you, but for subscription services DRM doesn't even get in the way... The experience is just that much better, and I don't mind at all... I don't even think about it.
So, it seems our options are limited here. There isn't going to be online content without DRM, especially in emerging and very competitive markets. It's a necessary evil, I fear.
I'll be honest, I used to be a DRM hater, like you, but for subscription services DRM doesn't even get in the way... The experience is just that much better, and I don't mind at all... I don't even think about it.
So, it seems our options are limited here. There isn't going to be online content without DRM, especially in emerging and very competitive markets. It's a necessary evil, I fear.
>for subscription services DRM doesn't even get in the way
You are saying that some DRM doesn't get in the way, how is it exactly? DRM prevents users from using their system of choice, since DRM is practically never cross platform, and DRM stands in the way of copying (that's what it's created for) i.e. in a way of copying for legitimate purpose such as format and time shifting, backups, accessibility and various other applications of fair use. To put it practically - can you use Netflix on Linux let's say? Not without jumping through some weird hoops. Can you make backups from Netflix content? No. So I'd challenge that it's transparent and doesn't get in the way.
> It's a necessary evil, I fear.
No, it's an unnecessary evil. And there will be online content without DRM - content creators just need to come to grips with reality and do the right thing. DRM doesn't add any value - it only degrades it for legitimate users.
Content creators have two ways forward. First is dropping all DRM, which makes experience better for end users, and respects paying customers. It doesn't stop piracy, but it provides incentive to buy from those who treat customers with respect. Second way is pushing DRM, degrading the experience of paying customers and treating them as potential criminals by default. This way doesn't stop piracy as well, but such disrespect towards legitimate paying users doesn't create any incentive to deal with content creators and distributors who treat people this way, and artificial limitations which degrade the experience and flexibility of such content reduce the incentive even more (guess what incentive they increase? Exactly - for piracy).
Music industry realized that DRM doesn't offer them any benefits (and only offers disadvantages) so they dropped pushing it. Other industries are still catching up with the idea, but they'll come to it. DRM as a trend is dying, though in many areas DRM free distribution channels are still a minority. You can get more and more DRM free e-books, DRM free distributors like GOG and Desura show that it's not needed at all for gaming. What's really dragging behind is video distribution. Besides DVDs where DRM is trivially removable, there are virtually no DRM free channels especially for streaming. But I don't see any conceptual difference between music, books, games or videos and etc. In any of these cases DRM offers nothing positive to end users (totally on the contrary) as well as doesn't prevent piracy. So as a trend - it's dying but it will take time for it to be gone forever.
My whole point was - it doesn't make sense to make a Web standard out of a dying trend which on top is unethical and user hostile. Therefore Netflix is doing a really bad thing with pushing DRM into HTML standard.
You are saying that some DRM doesn't get in the way, how is it exactly? DRM prevents users from using their system of choice, since DRM is practically never cross platform, and DRM stands in the way of copying (that's what it's created for) i.e. in a way of copying for legitimate purpose such as format and time shifting, backups, accessibility and various other applications of fair use. To put it practically - can you use Netflix on Linux let's say? Not without jumping through some weird hoops. Can you make backups from Netflix content? No. So I'd challenge that it's transparent and doesn't get in the way.
> It's a necessary evil, I fear.
No, it's an unnecessary evil. And there will be online content without DRM - content creators just need to come to grips with reality and do the right thing. DRM doesn't add any value - it only degrades it for legitimate users.
Content creators have two ways forward. First is dropping all DRM, which makes experience better for end users, and respects paying customers. It doesn't stop piracy, but it provides incentive to buy from those who treat customers with respect. Second way is pushing DRM, degrading the experience of paying customers and treating them as potential criminals by default. This way doesn't stop piracy as well, but such disrespect towards legitimate paying users doesn't create any incentive to deal with content creators and distributors who treat people this way, and artificial limitations which degrade the experience and flexibility of such content reduce the incentive even more (guess what incentive they increase? Exactly - for piracy).
Music industry realized that DRM doesn't offer them any benefits (and only offers disadvantages) so they dropped pushing it. Other industries are still catching up with the idea, but they'll come to it. DRM as a trend is dying, though in many areas DRM free distribution channels are still a minority. You can get more and more DRM free e-books, DRM free distributors like GOG and Desura show that it's not needed at all for gaming. What's really dragging behind is video distribution. Besides DVDs where DRM is trivially removable, there are virtually no DRM free channels especially for streaming. But I don't see any conceptual difference between music, books, games or videos and etc. In any of these cases DRM offers nothing positive to end users (totally on the contrary) as well as doesn't prevent piracy. So as a trend - it's dying but it will take time for it to be gone forever.
My whole point was - it doesn't make sense to make a Web standard out of a dying trend which on top is unethical and user hostile. Therefore Netflix is doing a really bad thing with pushing DRM into HTML standard.
It's dying in some contexts, and perfectly alive in others. Netflix is stuck dealing with big, slow lumbering companies who'll be saying "We'll license, if you have DRM". Protecting content isn't particularly unethical, it's just annoying.
I don't understand hostility at DRM when it's used to secure a stream of something you don't own. Netflix streams are rentals, not content that you have rights to retain or re-purpose as you see fit. DRM is perfectly appropriate in that situation, just like any other licensing solution for any other product/service that you only pay for temporarily.
I fully agree that DRM is hard to swallow on content that you've purchased outright though. I actively avoid purchasing things that I don't truly own after having purchased it.
I fully agree that DRM is hard to swallow on content that you've purchased outright though. I actively avoid purchasing things that I don't truly own after having purchased it.
>I don't understand hostility at DRM when it's used to secure a stream of something you don't own.
Simple. See all arguments presented above. In short - it's unethical practice of preemptive policing which severely degrades usability and achieves nothing positive. It's based on implicit insulting treating users as potential criminals. Users naturally should be hostile to such disrespectful treating, and surely this should not become any kind of Web standard.
And just to note - a concept of a "stream that you don't own" is a sheer nonsense in itself when the data reaches the user. User should be able to back up any data - it's within the fair use of that data.
Simple. See all arguments presented above. In short - it's unethical practice of preemptive policing which severely degrades usability and achieves nothing positive. It's based on implicit insulting treating users as potential criminals. Users naturally should be hostile to such disrespectful treating, and surely this should not become any kind of Web standard.
And just to note - a concept of a "stream that you don't own" is a sheer nonsense in itself when the data reaches the user. User should be able to back up any data - it's within the fair use of that data.
There's nothing unethical or insulting about preemptive loss prevention unless you go out of your way to read that into it. When I lock my front door, that doesn't mean I'm implying that my mailman is a thief. There's no benefit in over-dramatizing the situation.
If you demand ownership of any data that comes over your connection, all you're doing is fostering an environment where we can't have nice things like Netflix and Hulu offering on-demand streaming of their immense libraries of content for a few dollars a month (much less spending 9 figures on creating original content). If you agree to the terms of service that Netflix provides their video under, the content you stream from them absolutely and undeniably is not something that you own -- no more than you own the rights to re-broadcast premium content that you receive via subscription cable or satellite and no more than you own the copyright to the content of a website just because you download it into your browser.
You mention degraded usability, which I've never experienced when using Netflix. If anything, Silverlight's "smooth streaming" is (by far) the best HD-over-the-wire experience I've seen still to this day. However, I've read that Linux users have a relatively awful time with Silverlight and Netflix. The latter are a perfect example of those who would benefit from accepting the real-world reality that DRM is necessary for premium content to be distributed online, and thus we ought to go ahead and make that a first class experience in raw HTML. Everyone would benefit from codifying that as a standard.
If you demand ownership of any data that comes over your connection, all you're doing is fostering an environment where we can't have nice things like Netflix and Hulu offering on-demand streaming of their immense libraries of content for a few dollars a month (much less spending 9 figures on creating original content). If you agree to the terms of service that Netflix provides their video under, the content you stream from them absolutely and undeniably is not something that you own -- no more than you own the rights to re-broadcast premium content that you receive via subscription cable or satellite and no more than you own the copyright to the content of a website just because you download it into your browser.
You mention degraded usability, which I've never experienced when using Netflix. If anything, Silverlight's "smooth streaming" is (by far) the best HD-over-the-wire experience I've seen still to this day. However, I've read that Linux users have a relatively awful time with Silverlight and Netflix. The latter are a perfect example of those who would benefit from accepting the real-world reality that DRM is necessary for premium content to be distributed online, and thus we ought to go ahead and make that a first class experience in raw HTML. Everyone would benefit from codifying that as a standard.
We have a conceptual disagreement here. For me - DRM is similar to getting a book, which comes with an accompanying police robot which follows you around and allows you to read it only within certain periods of the day and prevents for example from photo copying. If you want to make this concept closer to renting, consider that book to be from the library. Does it make sense? No, because it's nonsense. And one would argue that it's unethical to use such preemptive policing which interferes with your activities and violates your privacy. DRM is exactly the same nonsense.
If you are talking about using doors - it's totally the opposite, usually it's DRM that violates privacy of users and is prone to all kind of abuse (example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootk... ).
> If you agree to the terms of service that Netflix provides their video under, the content you stream from them absolutely and undeniably is not something that you own
It doesn't really matter how it's called ("owned" or not "owned"). Users have full right to use this data in the manner they want (like time or device shifting) if they do it for their personal needs and don't redistribute it to others. In most cases to allow such flexibility one needs to either get DRM free content, or to strip DRM from the DRMed one. It's especially important for people with disabilities who are mostly ignored by DRM schemes. Streaming is merely a convenience scheme, in comparsion let's say with simple download (i.e. it doesn't require you to store data and allows accessing it instantly in contrast to waiting for the download). Those who intend streaming as a way to restrict usage are wrong since they ignore users' rights on fair use of that content.
> If you demand ownership of any data that comes over your connection, all you're doing is fostering an environment where we can't have nice things like Netflix and Hulu
Not true. Nothing essential dictates Netflix or Hulu to use DRM except paranoid fear of piracy by content publishers which push them to use such nonsensical and unethical tools like DRM. And as was already pointed above - it doesn't even prevent piracy anyway. All it does - punishes the paying customers and shows disrespect to them. So - there is no such necessity for any content to be distributed on the net under DRM. And if some content distributors insist on using such methods - let them, but it should never be encouraged or proliferated by making it a Web standard. They need to be educated that it's a backwards and unethical approach. And people should be encouraged to avoid such distributors - for the sake of making a point that customers should be treated with respect and to show that unethical methods are unacceptable. Repsect is also a two way street. When distributors treat users with respect, users have incentive to support them more in return and to respect them back. Most distributors don't care about or never think about it. But those who do, are respected by users much more and it always pays back with more loyal customers.
Linux example only proves my point - DRM degrades usability (in this case for Linux users). DRM schemes will never be fully portable and will always restrict use cases.
If you are talking about using doors - it's totally the opposite, usually it's DRM that violates privacy of users and is prone to all kind of abuse (example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootk... ).
> If you agree to the terms of service that Netflix provides their video under, the content you stream from them absolutely and undeniably is not something that you own
It doesn't really matter how it's called ("owned" or not "owned"). Users have full right to use this data in the manner they want (like time or device shifting) if they do it for their personal needs and don't redistribute it to others. In most cases to allow such flexibility one needs to either get DRM free content, or to strip DRM from the DRMed one. It's especially important for people with disabilities who are mostly ignored by DRM schemes. Streaming is merely a convenience scheme, in comparsion let's say with simple download (i.e. it doesn't require you to store data and allows accessing it instantly in contrast to waiting for the download). Those who intend streaming as a way to restrict usage are wrong since they ignore users' rights on fair use of that content.
> If you demand ownership of any data that comes over your connection, all you're doing is fostering an environment where we can't have nice things like Netflix and Hulu
Not true. Nothing essential dictates Netflix or Hulu to use DRM except paranoid fear of piracy by content publishers which push them to use such nonsensical and unethical tools like DRM. And as was already pointed above - it doesn't even prevent piracy anyway. All it does - punishes the paying customers and shows disrespect to them. So - there is no such necessity for any content to be distributed on the net under DRM. And if some content distributors insist on using such methods - let them, but it should never be encouraged or proliferated by making it a Web standard. They need to be educated that it's a backwards and unethical approach. And people should be encouraged to avoid such distributors - for the sake of making a point that customers should be treated with respect and to show that unethical methods are unacceptable. Repsect is also a two way street. When distributors treat users with respect, users have incentive to support them more in return and to respect them back. Most distributors don't care about or never think about it. But those who do, are respected by users much more and it always pays back with more loyal customers.
Linux example only proves my point - DRM degrades usability (in this case for Linux users). DRM schemes will never be fully portable and will always restrict use cases.
Yeah, a desperate attempt to break independent from the Hollywood/TV crooks.
> the Hollywood/TV crooks
What a load of crap. Hollywood/TV doesn't have a lot of leverage because they're crooks. They have a lot of leverage because they sell a non-fungible product. People don't just want to watch a show about advertisers with a lot of sexist banter--they want to watch Mad Men. They don't to watch a movie with some random hot guy, they want a movie with Channing Tatum.
It's the same market dynamic that makes Apple and Louis Vuitton what they are except even more extreme. LV sells purses and so does Kate Spade and so there is competition there. But only Warner Brothers sells Lord of the Rings, and other swords and sorcery movies aren't fungible with LOTR.
What a load of crap. Hollywood/TV doesn't have a lot of leverage because they're crooks. They have a lot of leverage because they sell a non-fungible product. People don't just want to watch a show about advertisers with a lot of sexist banter--they want to watch Mad Men. They don't to watch a movie with some random hot guy, they want a movie with Channing Tatum.
It's the same market dynamic that makes Apple and Louis Vuitton what they are except even more extreme. LV sells purses and so does Kate Spade and so there is competition there. But only Warner Brothers sells Lord of the Rings, and other swords and sorcery movies aren't fungible with LOTR.
> other swords and sorcery movies aren't fungible with LOTR.
I'd pay for more Legend of the Seeker, or for someone to do a Mistborn series. I'd pay to see Game of Thrones.
I'd pay for more Legend of the Seeker, or for someone to do a Mistborn series. I'd pay to see Game of Thrones.
Someone is doing Mistborn. Let's hope they don't bungle it.
http://www.brandonsanderson.com/blog/1074/Mistborn-Movie-Upd...
http://www.brandonsanderson.com/blog/1074/Mistborn-Movie-Upd...
I'm actually quite excited about this. Netflix is in a position to a first example of a new type of higher-budget independent entertainment.
I hope they start producing good sci-fi.
Bring back firefly!
Its been ten years. Let it go. Seriously.
Summer's still got it. You could pick up the universe 10 years later, and nerd-dom would flock to it. Joss Whedon could make it work, if he wanted. Doesn't though. It would be a different show, with maybe a few actors from the old one, but it would still have the benefit of the franchise.
Does anyone know how the Amazon Studio's projects are coming along? Amazon was also looking to disrupt the Hollywood model and it has been a while since it started.
I'm really hoping this works. Partially because I'm a Netflix subscriber, but mostly because I want HBO, AMC, and Showtime to follow suit eventually. If Netflix shows that they can support a high-profile show with a subscription model, maybe non-cable subscribers can eventually get HBO. Or am I just dreaming?
You want to pay $9 * N content providers per month? I don't.
You wouldn't? I totally would. Seems like a cable package that includes premium content (HBO, etc.) runs at least $100 per month. If I could ditch the cable and instead get 11 HBO-quality content providers (which is much better than I get from cable), that would be a no-brainer. More likely, I would get half as many, and end up with more solid content than I have time to watch, for much less money.
I want to pay for content, not brands. This is just a different version of the problem we have with cable. You're forgetting that most of the content HBO, Showtime, etc. show is not original content, and it overlaps with each other (and Netflix, and Amazon Prime), so you'd be paying for the same content many times over.
No, I don't think I'm forgetting that. Netflix is talking about doing five original scripted series per year. HBO does... seven or eight, maybe? (Off the top of my head from the last year, Game of Thrones, Girls, True Blood, Boardwalk Empire, Newsroom, and Treme; that list isn't complete). That content is all not only original but, at least initially, exclusive. Showtime is at about the same level of volume, so this isn't unique.
You're right that in terms of a fraction of hours of content per month, most of what they show is not first-run original content, but I don't watch TV 24 hours a day, so I don't care. Like I said, if I got that amount of original content from four or five different providers (let alone 10), that would be more television than I have time to watch. The fact that they mostly show movie reruns is immaterial.
You're right that in terms of a fraction of hours of content per month, most of what they show is not first-run original content, but I don't watch TV 24 hours a day, so I don't care. Like I said, if I got that amount of original content from four or five different providers (let alone 10), that would be more television than I have time to watch. The fact that they mostly show movie reruns is immaterial.
Why should you care who makes Game of Thrones? Isn't that immaterial to you as a consumer; you just want to watch Game of Thrones, right? Why must we choose certain producers of content and not just choose the content? If shows were more competitively priced, say .99 for rentals, 9.99 for season passes, this would all be a non-issue.
Maybe, maybe not. What's interesting about the HBO/Showtime/etc. model is that it specifically encourages programming diversity, as the original article discusses at least a bit. Many people are willing to pay the surplus on their cable bill just to follow their one or two favorite shows, and few of the audience watches all eight (or however many). What this means is that whereas when a network adds a new show, they're trying to maximize its viewership on its own to maximize ad revenue, HBO only cares about adding new viewers that aren't already a part of their audience -- if a new show is only of interest to people already in the target demographic of an existing show and, therefore, probably already subscribers, nobody new will subscribe and the show won't pay for itself. As an audience member of their content, then, you're not expected to watch all of the shows, but you get the opportunity to watch a few that are probably more-narrowly-tailored to your interests than would be expected of network programming.
So yes, I would like to just be able to buy Game of Thrones, but I'd also, personally, like to be able to just buy Deadwood or (on Showtime) Queer as Folk, and I think if every show had to justify itself to network executives on raw viewership numbers instead of on audience-broadening power, those shows would never get made; their audiences are too niche compared to their production costs. I certainly appreciate the opportunity to see at least some content that's not aimed primarily at 18-35-year-old straight men.
Of course, this is the kind of reasoning that justifies 100-channel cable packages instead of a-la-carte cable channels, so take what I'm saying with a grain of salt. But I think the expectation that a-la-carte show purchasing could really work, economically, is probably not realistic (and this without even getting into the issue that it'd be tough to pay for a $75-million Game of Thrones season at a dollar an episode).
So yes, I would like to just be able to buy Game of Thrones, but I'd also, personally, like to be able to just buy Deadwood or (on Showtime) Queer as Folk, and I think if every show had to justify itself to network executives on raw viewership numbers instead of on audience-broadening power, those shows would never get made; their audiences are too niche compared to their production costs. I certainly appreciate the opportunity to see at least some content that's not aimed primarily at 18-35-year-old straight men.
Of course, this is the kind of reasoning that justifies 100-channel cable packages instead of a-la-carte cable channels, so take what I'm saying with a grain of salt. But I think the expectation that a-la-carte show purchasing could really work, economically, is probably not realistic (and this without even getting into the issue that it'd be tough to pay for a $75-million Game of Thrones season at a dollar an episode).
Dish Network starts at $50/mo plus $18 for HBO. Once you start adding up streaming subscriptions and season passes to fill in the gaps, you're looking at a similar price.
You could get up to fairly reasonable values of 'N' there and it will still be cheaper than a decent cable subscription.
$9/mth for different content I actually want to watch is much, much more attractive than current cable options.
In a heartbeat.
HBO already started to shift. It's called HBO GO. With an HBO subscription you have online access.
The problem with HBO adopting a pure-streaming service is that it's still more lucrative for them to work with the cable providers.
The problem with HBO adopting a pure-streaming service is that it's still more lucrative for them to work with the cable providers.
If this works Netflix will buy what's left of HBO in a few years.
I don't think its just a matter of economics, Netflix doesn't have a choice if they have to survive long-term. Thanks to the internet, the power is shifting from content providers to content creators and they risk turning into a dumb pipe at the mercy of whimsical broadcasters who can choose to stream their show directly to their viewers. Reed Hastings has said that it is a race for how fast Netflix can become HBO before HBO becomes Netflix. They need to produce their own shows else soon they will only get access to B-grade content.
"...they risk turning into a dumb pipe".
That's their problem, they don't own the pipes either. They don't own the pipes and they don't own the content (before House of Cards). Up to now they provided...well...a useful cute little UI, but it's hard to make a lot of profit for a prolonged period of time on that. So they either go into pipe building or content building. Content building has the better leverage to the large customer base they've got, and in that context producing House of Cards makes perfect sense. I hopes it works out for them.
That's their problem, they don't own the pipes either. They don't own the pipes and they don't own the content (before House of Cards). Up to now they provided...well...a useful cute little UI, but it's hard to make a lot of profit for a prolonged period of time on that. So they either go into pipe building or content building. Content building has the better leverage to the large customer base they've got, and in that context producing House of Cards makes perfect sense. I hopes it works out for them.
Their infrastructure is valuable, especially the code they have which determines what quality of video they can send you without stuttering or buffering which was better than anything else at the time. That was what got them my money.
The service Netflix provides is licensing and aggregation, plus the UI and convenience. I'd say the first two are the ones most closely worth U$ 7.99 to me.
IMO, licensing and aggregation are the "hard" problems, not UI or streaming or whatever.
IMO, licensing and aggregation are the "hard" problems, not UI or streaming or whatever.
I've been watching documentaries on Netflix. They're already stuck with B-grade content in some areas.
Netflix's big long-term advantage is buying power.
They have 30 million users spending $100/yr. Assume they spend half their income on content. That's $1.5bn/yr. That's a huge amount of money, and it's only going to get bigger as they grow and expand into new territories.
Increasingly, Netflix revenue is so high that it will seem inconceivable for content owners to turn them down in a gamble to go it alone and increasingly hard for anyone to compete.
I am extremely bullish on Netflix. I think they have a sound business model with huge upsides and the downsides are hugely overstated.
They have 30 million users spending $100/yr. Assume they spend half their income on content. That's $1.5bn/yr. That's a huge amount of money, and it's only going to get bigger as they grow and expand into new territories.
Increasingly, Netflix revenue is so high that it will seem inconceivable for content owners to turn them down in a gamble to go it alone and increasingly hard for anyone to compete.
I am extremely bullish on Netflix. I think they have a sound business model with huge upsides and the downsides are hugely overstated.
They are spending about 71% on content. Before they hit 40M subscribers they could produce 13 hours of House of Cards level content per week. That would surely be something.
For 8$.
For 8$.
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"it could turn around and sell syndication rights to networks and overseas."
Very unlikely since Netflix is planning to further expand abroad and the key in their business is exclusivity...
The math in this post is bogus since it's only based on incremental revenue brought by new subscribers. Getting more exclusive content does not only bring new subscribers, it also increases retention.
I think the real news is not that netflix is producing its own content but that it's using state of the art analytics to design this new content predicting/modeling the type of scenario/actors/director that would best work for it's 30M+ subscribers.
That's where the true disruption is. If somehow they are better at predicting what people like or don't like, they can design the right show for a given audience and maybe one day change the scenario in realtime depending on your mood a this very specific time...
Very unlikely since Netflix is planning to further expand abroad and the key in their business is exclusivity...
The math in this post is bogus since it's only based on incremental revenue brought by new subscribers. Getting more exclusive content does not only bring new subscribers, it also increases retention.
I think the real news is not that netflix is producing its own content but that it's using state of the art analytics to design this new content predicting/modeling the type of scenario/actors/director that would best work for it's 30M+ subscribers.
That's where the true disruption is. If somehow they are better at predicting what people like or don't like, they can design the right show for a given audience and maybe one day change the scenario in realtime depending on your mood a this very specific time...
What about barter deals? Could Netflix 'trade' the show to AMC for the next season of The Walking Dead?
Not only this would be a distraction but I don't think it makes business sense for them. In my opinion exclusivity is key to their long term strategy in a streaming world. They already have the best distribution channel you can think of why would they need to licence their content?
Yes I think you are right about exclusivity. I think what they paid for House of Cards is significantly more than what they pay for other shows. That is really my questioning about the model. But yes, they paid the premium to not only show it, but for exclusivity. If you are right they could license it outside the US.
It would make sense if they had no intention to aggressively expand abroad. They are doing exactly the oposite. In the last two years they launched in 20+ countries. Like I said they have the ultimate distribution platform for their content and the cost of expending it abroad is marginal, a couple of CDN deals and some marketing.
Yep.
Netflix is available in Norway, but House of Cards will also run on a cable channel in March
Netflix doesn't own House of Cards. They paid most of the money to have it made but they only got an exclusive license.
I'm not a fan of political shows. That said, I decided to watch House of Cards last night.
It's not bad. Having Kevin Spacey as the lead is good. There's a good cast of supporting actors too. The writing is a bit mundane, but not terrible. I know the show is somewhat of a remake of a BBC show from a while back, but I never watched it so my take is purely on this experience.
I plan on watching the rest of it. It was interesting enough to have keep me up till 5am doing the "just one more" thing. The format of no commercials and having all the episodes available at launch is a really good thing. I was pleasantly surprised when the 2nd episode started playing as I finished the first one. I was fully expecting to have to wait a week to see the next one. No episode felt rushed, like things had to be crammed into a specific time slot.
The things that work for this format:
1) Release at once 2) Natural variable time lengths 3) Good production values 4) Good cast 5) Decent writing
If they use this as a framework for other types of genres, I think it will be good. I'd personally like to see the next show be sci-fi. Something with a unique premise that has never really been done by networks, because they screw it up. No time travel, or future detective, or alien invaders thing. Something gritty but uplifting, along the veins of Babylon 5, TNG, or BSG.
I'd like to see a near-future show about solar system colonization. Could have an entire system-wide, multi cultural backdrop like Firefly. Hell, try getting Josh Whedon to do it. Visits to Luna, Mars, asteroid mining colonies, deep space science labs, political intrigue from Earth, the companies that own colonies, immigration rights, etc. The solar system as a backdrop is big enough to have an infinite number of stories, but keeps everything so close together that it feels real. Star Trek provided a big galactic tapestry, but many times still felt distant and isolated.
Anyway, check out HoC if you have Netflix. Hopefully we'll see more shows from them.
It's not bad. Having Kevin Spacey as the lead is good. There's a good cast of supporting actors too. The writing is a bit mundane, but not terrible. I know the show is somewhat of a remake of a BBC show from a while back, but I never watched it so my take is purely on this experience.
I plan on watching the rest of it. It was interesting enough to have keep me up till 5am doing the "just one more" thing. The format of no commercials and having all the episodes available at launch is a really good thing. I was pleasantly surprised when the 2nd episode started playing as I finished the first one. I was fully expecting to have to wait a week to see the next one. No episode felt rushed, like things had to be crammed into a specific time slot.
The things that work for this format:
1) Release at once 2) Natural variable time lengths 3) Good production values 4) Good cast 5) Decent writing
If they use this as a framework for other types of genres, I think it will be good. I'd personally like to see the next show be sci-fi. Something with a unique premise that has never really been done by networks, because they screw it up. No time travel, or future detective, or alien invaders thing. Something gritty but uplifting, along the veins of Babylon 5, TNG, or BSG.
I'd like to see a near-future show about solar system colonization. Could have an entire system-wide, multi cultural backdrop like Firefly. Hell, try getting Josh Whedon to do it. Visits to Luna, Mars, asteroid mining colonies, deep space science labs, political intrigue from Earth, the companies that own colonies, immigration rights, etc. The solar system as a backdrop is big enough to have an infinite number of stories, but keeps everything so close together that it feels real. Star Trek provided a big galactic tapestry, but many times still felt distant and isolated.
Anyway, check out HoC if you have Netflix. Hopefully we'll see more shows from them.
I watched the first 4 episodes of HoC this weekend and am quite disappointed.
Production is very good, acting is quite good (although Spacey simply plays "high status" all the time with a rigid upper lip and not much nuance).
For me there are two problems
- The two main characters are cynical people who are obsessed with power and just plain mean... and they win every time. I don't care for them; at this point I would like to watch them fail and be humiliated, but I don't think it will happen, so I lost the main incentive to watch the next episode.
- The whole thing is predictable. At the beginning of each episode a minor setback appears for the Underwoods, and they defeat it with a smirk (Robin Wright's smirk really gets on my nerves now, although she's probably one of the most beautiful women in the world).
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On http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Cards_(U.S._TV_series) a critic is quoted saying "This hardwired venality is what makes this show so watchable. Here are the realities of political life as most of us suspect them to be."
I'm not sure. I think HoC takes itself and its subject much too seriously. I think reality is much more absurd and difficult to control, as described in Armando Iannucci's writing, which I can never get enough of (The Thick of It, In the Loop, Veep, etc.)
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EDIT -- The rant above is a little off-topic; the on-topic point is that this is a very good move for Netflix and that (as others have noted) they really don't have a choice.
If they don't produce their own exclusive content they are at the mercy of other content producers who will try to price them out of the market (and would succeed in doing so).
Production is very good, acting is quite good (although Spacey simply plays "high status" all the time with a rigid upper lip and not much nuance).
For me there are two problems
- The two main characters are cynical people who are obsessed with power and just plain mean... and they win every time. I don't care for them; at this point I would like to watch them fail and be humiliated, but I don't think it will happen, so I lost the main incentive to watch the next episode.
- The whole thing is predictable. At the beginning of each episode a minor setback appears for the Underwoods, and they defeat it with a smirk (Robin Wright's smirk really gets on my nerves now, although she's probably one of the most beautiful women in the world).
- - -
On http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Cards_(U.S._TV_series) a critic is quoted saying "This hardwired venality is what makes this show so watchable. Here are the realities of political life as most of us suspect them to be."
I'm not sure. I think HoC takes itself and its subject much too seriously. I think reality is much more absurd and difficult to control, as described in Armando Iannucci's writing, which I can never get enough of (The Thick of It, In the Loop, Veep, etc.)
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EDIT -- The rant above is a little off-topic; the on-topic point is that this is a very good move for Netflix and that (as others have noted) they really don't have a choice.
If they don't produce their own exclusive content they are at the mercy of other content producers who will try to price them out of the market (and would succeed in doing so).
Just finished the rest of the season after my previous post. It gets a lot better in the last 5 episodes. Some of the issues you mention that made it boring all tie together very well. Things start coming to an interesting peak towards the end, and Underwood stops winning so easily as he does in the beginning. Now looking forward to the next season.
>It's not bad. Having Kevin Spacey as the lead is good. There's a good cast of supporting actors too. The writing is a bit mundane, but not terrible.
This is a tangent, but HBO and Showtime appear to have noticed that there's a deep pool of talent actors with skills equal to famous, expensive actors. The cable networks realized that these lesser-known but very good actors can be hired to create very compelling shows that spend less on actors and more on the surrounding stuff that makes actors more effective.
This is a tangent, but HBO and Showtime appear to have noticed that there's a deep pool of talent actors with skills equal to famous, expensive actors. The cable networks realized that these lesser-known but very good actors can be hired to create very compelling shows that spend less on actors and more on the surrounding stuff that makes actors more effective.
I might be inclined to agree, but to be honest what made me give the show a shot is when I learned that Spacey was in it. Perhaps they won't need to continue to get big name actors though, now that people understand the sort of scale/budget they are operating at.
Anyway, check out HoC if you have Netflix. Hopefully we'll see more shows from them.
If you don't have Netflix, you can watch the Premiere without signing up for the usual first free month.
And the other originals launching this year (in addition to the new Arrested Development season) are listed here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_original_programs_distr...
If you don't have Netflix, you can watch the Premiere without signing up for the usual first free month.
And the other originals launching this year (in addition to the new Arrested Development season) are listed here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_original_programs_distr...
> It's not bad. Having Kevin Spacey as the lead is good.
I like the show, but Kevin Spacey's southern accent is so terrible it is distracting. I normally wouldn't care, but my I grew up in the Carolinas and he sounds nothing like any person or politician from the area. He needs to drop the accent as it takes away from the rest of his performance.
If they wanted a correct southern accent they should have hired Kyle Chandler.
I like the show, but Kevin Spacey's southern accent is so terrible it is distracting. I normally wouldn't care, but my I grew up in the Carolinas and he sounds nothing like any person or politician from the area. He needs to drop the accent as it takes away from the rest of his performance.
If they wanted a correct southern accent they should have hired Kyle Chandler.
When I was at NC State, I met an old doctor who had an accent kind of like that. I had a feeling it was some sort of "Old Raleigh accent of prestige." I've also heard people talk sort of like that in Georgia, where again I got a feeling it was linked to prestige.
His accent might not be spot-on, but I find it plausible.
His accent might not be spot-on, but I find it plausible.
Grew up in the south. His accent is wonderful.
There are thousands of accents in that portion of the country just like anywhere else.
For me it's a wonderful departure from Kevin Spacey being "Kevin Spacey" in just about everything else I've seen him in.
House of Cards is delightful.
There are thousands of accents in that portion of the country just like anywhere else.
For me it's a wonderful departure from Kevin Spacey being "Kevin Spacey" in just about everything else I've seen him in.
House of Cards is delightful.
The accent is good.
There's a lot more than one southern accent. Someone from the Carolinas sounds wholly different from Floridian which sounds different from Texan which sounds different from Oklahoma which sounds different from Louisiana and I think you're getting the picture. I've heard more than one person with that accent of his.
They modelled the accent on the writer/producer's father: http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/house-of-cards-sta....
I obviously can't speak to how well they nailed it, but there was a very specific accent in mind.
I obviously can't speak to how well they nailed it, but there was a very specific accent in mind.
Thanks for posting that. It seems they were more interested in enhancing the dialog by adding rhythmic lilt rather than being concerned about producing something that is authentic.
I agree that house of cards is a great show and casting Spacey was an excellent choice. The American Beauty Kate Mana really works well too. If you're thinking of the bbc's Yes Minister, then this is nothing like that show. Maybe you had something else in mind.
He's talking about the BBC's 1990 House of Cards (http://m.imdb.com/title/tt0098825/), starring Ian Richardson as Francis Urquhart, the Conservative Party whip in the House of Commons.
You should check it out - it's available on Netflix :-P
You should check it out - it's available on Netflix :-P
He had in mind the BBC's House of Cards.
Netflix accomplished two things:
1. They muscled into the "prestige television" club for $100MM. It may be overpriced, or it may be underpriced, either way it's very good for consumers.
2. They validated television is the new book. You gorge on 13 hours of good television the same way you gorge on 13 chapters of a good book. This is very good for show creators.
A triple win aligning interests while getting to say f-you to existing preconceptions. This is what "disruption" looks like. Now I'm just sad I didn't buy NFLX after people freaked out over Qwikster.
1. They muscled into the "prestige television" club for $100MM. It may be overpriced, or it may be underpriced, either way it's very good for consumers.
2. They validated television is the new book. You gorge on 13 hours of good television the same way you gorge on 13 chapters of a good book. This is very good for show creators.
A triple win aligning interests while getting to say f-you to existing preconceptions. This is what "disruption" looks like. Now I'm just sad I didn't buy NFLX after people freaked out over Qwikster.
On the 2nd, wasn't that validated by the 1960s at the latest? That was a common perception at the time, anyway.
Only to a limited degree. Yes, there were soaps and other serials that had long-running narrative arcs, but not with the kind of sophistication contemporary writers are using.
Let's call it the 'Post-Buffy' school of thought, where character nuance, motivation, back-story, plot and sub-plot are all delivered with a kind of attention to detail formerly only used by novelists. There may be a few examples from the 60's -- The Prisoner comes to mind -- but even that can't really touch the narrative layers we've seen in the last decade: The Wire, Lost, Mad Men, Breaking Bad, Battlestar Galactica, Game of Thrones (TV as novel if there ever was one), Six Feet Under, Dexter, Band of Brothers, and so forth. These aren't just books, they're novels.
This I think is partially the result of the ability of viewers to sit down and spend concentrated time with a series when they come out on DVD. The first time my wife and I did this was maybe 10 years ago with Buffy and Angel, and it was the most fun I'd ever had with television. This was a new experience. We'd lose 4 or 5 hours late on a Friday just chaining one after another, like the Battlestar Galactica skit on Portlandia.
What I think Netflix is doing, and probably what it has massive amounts of data to back up (I watched Buffy through Netflix, come to think of it), is that this new type of viewer engagement -- long sessions of series "gorging" -- has completely transformed the way we experience television. I think this is why they released the House of Cards episodes all at once. This is also probably why they're not releasing viewing numbers -- the new experience context of contemporary viewers has very little to do with the old Nielsen ratings arc, and would be a poor measure of the show's success, from Netflix' own point of view.
Let's call it the 'Post-Buffy' school of thought, where character nuance, motivation, back-story, plot and sub-plot are all delivered with a kind of attention to detail formerly only used by novelists. There may be a few examples from the 60's -- The Prisoner comes to mind -- but even that can't really touch the narrative layers we've seen in the last decade: The Wire, Lost, Mad Men, Breaking Bad, Battlestar Galactica, Game of Thrones (TV as novel if there ever was one), Six Feet Under, Dexter, Band of Brothers, and so forth. These aren't just books, they're novels.
This I think is partially the result of the ability of viewers to sit down and spend concentrated time with a series when they come out on DVD. The first time my wife and I did this was maybe 10 years ago with Buffy and Angel, and it was the most fun I'd ever had with television. This was a new experience. We'd lose 4 or 5 hours late on a Friday just chaining one after another, like the Battlestar Galactica skit on Portlandia.
What I think Netflix is doing, and probably what it has massive amounts of data to back up (I watched Buffy through Netflix, come to think of it), is that this new type of viewer engagement -- long sessions of series "gorging" -- has completely transformed the way we experience television. I think this is why they released the House of Cards episodes all at once. This is also probably why they're not releasing viewing numbers -- the new experience context of contemporary viewers has very little to do with the old Nielsen ratings arc, and would be a poor measure of the show's success, from Netflix' own point of view.
Right, if you mean to watch in one sitting, that wasn't something you could do in the '60s. But it's something that seems like it's been common since the '90s, since the advent of the "DVD Box Set". People would get box sets and watch these long-narrative-arc series in marathon weekends, or socially in parties. There was a period in the 1990s when seemingly everyone I knew was organizing Twin Peaks parties, and it seems like it fits the description of long-running experimental novel. People did that with the X-Files too, though admittedly it was a more coherent experience if you cut the "monster-of-the-week" episodes from the sequence (but hey, leave them in, and make it a gigantic, sprawling novel with disconnected subplots, of the Alexandre Dumas variety). Or Dawson's Creek, for that matter, or Buffy as you mentioned. In my circle of friends it seemed everyone was gorging themselves on Babylon 5, Star Trek, Black Adder, and Monty Python box sets as well; I don't know if I'd describe those as narratively complex, but there are lighter novels, too.
But in any case, I could believe the numbers are different. Perhaps box sets were not as major a part of 1990s/2000s TV-watching as I had thought?
But in any case, I could believe the numbers are different. Perhaps box sets were not as major a part of 1990s/2000s TV-watching as I had thought?
This is a different behavior entirely. In the "couch potato" case people are just spending all day watching whatever is on, which might become a fundamental feature of their life. In the "netflix enthusiast" case people are spending chunks of free time consuming entire TV series, and often it's a thing that they'll do occasionally instead of continuously. This has very different consequences in the impact such behaviors have on someone's life.
A bit tangential, but I really hope some service solves the "couch potato" use case for streaming - I love Netflix, but I miss cable tv's channel jumping.
I want someone to curate and select shows for me, and show them in a channel, so I can just browse (an improved Cable Tv experiencie, hopefully ad-free, but probably not :P ).
I also miss live (or slightly delayed but current) sports - that would be a killer feature for Netflix.
I want someone to curate and select shows for me, and show them in a channel, so I can just browse (an improved Cable Tv experiencie, hopefully ad-free, but probably not :P ).
I also miss live (or slightly delayed but current) sports - that would be a killer feature for Netflix.
Like a MTV VJ.
Hmm, television as a book. I get the analogy. It's kind of like applying book serialization to video. You quickly read a book and as many sequels exist when you first pick it up. Then you have to wait for the next season, i.e. book, to come out.
I get the analogy and see the value in it, but I'll point out where the TV isn't like a book:
1. Books are obviously composed of text, and, when you read, you're also imbibing the rhythms of the language you're reading (see http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/atlarge/2007/12/24/071... for more on this).
2. Related to number one, many more of us need to write than need to shoot and edit videos. Reading skill is related to writing skill.
3. You'll read far more words in a given block of time than you'll hear in video. Reading is much more information dense in this sense (whether a minute of video is worth a thousand words can be debated elsewhere).
4. It's easier to quote and store text than it is video. Notice the word "easier:" I'm aware that it's possible to quote and store video. Related to this, I use the scheme Steven Berlin Johnson describes here: http://www.stevenberlinjohnson.com/movabletype/archives/0002... .
1. Books are obviously composed of text, and, when you read, you're also imbibing the rhythms of the language you're reading (see http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/atlarge/2007/12/24/071... for more on this).
2. Related to number one, many more of us need to write than need to shoot and edit videos. Reading skill is related to writing skill.
3. You'll read far more words in a given block of time than you'll hear in video. Reading is much more information dense in this sense (whether a minute of video is worth a thousand words can be debated elsewhere).
4. It's easier to quote and store text than it is video. Notice the word "easier:" I'm aware that it's possible to quote and store video. Related to this, I use the scheme Steven Berlin Johnson describes here: http://www.stevenberlinjohnson.com/movabletype/archives/0002... .
Also, the cost of entry for creating a high quality book is much lower than for creating a high quality movie/tv show. This allows a wider variety of viewpoints, forms, styles, and ideas to be expressed in book form than tv.
Kind of sounds like YouTube.
Except that you can't produce longform, high quality content on YouTube for any cheaper than you can produce a tv show.
Resolution? Distribution? Length? Advertising support? Its a whole different economic (and technical) environment; costs are likely unrelated to any TV model.
I'll defend.
1. House of Cards was 13 "chapters" that have definite rhythm and flow. Every hour was a mini three act play and it would make sense considering at the end of the day, video is just scripts brought to life by an accomplished playwright, accomplished director, accomplished talent, and accomplished cast.
2. We don't live in that world anymore. We're a civilization on an escalating need for input stimulation. It's an addiction, you're either the pusher or you're user. We've transitioned on the web from merely just hypertext to multimedia and real time, like how we've transitioned from typing in boring text updates to photo updates, and how we've moved from just merely chatting to video chatting.
3. But you experience much more in a given block of time than just pages on a book. And look at the movie industry versus the print industry. And the impact of a well crafted moment in a show, I posit, is much more powerful sometimes than a page can deliver.
4. Surf Tumblr for a few hours and you'll understand how things are done these days. Kids don't just share quotes anymore, kids share GIF screen caps of their favorite moments in the movie or show they like. And there are better and better tools each season to make screencapping creation/sharing easier by the day. Look up what IntoNow is doing with their community and how they're getting people to interact in real time to individual shows.
Writing's on the wall: People don't read anymore, quoth Steve Jobs.
1. House of Cards was 13 "chapters" that have definite rhythm and flow. Every hour was a mini three act play and it would make sense considering at the end of the day, video is just scripts brought to life by an accomplished playwright, accomplished director, accomplished talent, and accomplished cast.
2. We don't live in that world anymore. We're a civilization on an escalating need for input stimulation. It's an addiction, you're either the pusher or you're user. We've transitioned on the web from merely just hypertext to multimedia and real time, like how we've transitioned from typing in boring text updates to photo updates, and how we've moved from just merely chatting to video chatting.
3. But you experience much more in a given block of time than just pages on a book. And look at the movie industry versus the print industry. And the impact of a well crafted moment in a show, I posit, is much more powerful sometimes than a page can deliver.
4. Surf Tumblr for a few hours and you'll understand how things are done these days. Kids don't just share quotes anymore, kids share GIF screen caps of their favorite moments in the movie or show they like. And there are better and better tools each season to make screencapping creation/sharing easier by the day. Look up what IntoNow is doing with their community and how they're getting people to interact in real time to individual shows.
Writing's on the wall: People don't read anymore, quoth Steve Jobs.
> And the impact of a well crafted moment in a show, I posit, is much more powerful sometimes than a page can deliver.
Depends on the writer. I've been haunted by single lines in novels for years.
> Surf Tumblr for a few hours and you'll understand how things are done these days. Kids don't just share quotes anymore, kids share GIF screen caps of their favorite moments in the movie or show they like.
In David Brin's uplift series, he posited that the "uplifted" sentient dolphins would mimic echolocation signals to beam images and short imagined movies directly into each other's heads. It's like we're becoming David Brin's dolphins. Someday, our tools will be so powerful and the interfaces so slick and efficient, we will just instantly produce little movies and beam them into each other's brains. We've already seen the effect of video on speech and syntax: "It was like..."
Depends on the writer. I've been haunted by single lines in novels for years.
> Surf Tumblr for a few hours and you'll understand how things are done these days. Kids don't just share quotes anymore, kids share GIF screen caps of their favorite moments in the movie or show they like.
In David Brin's uplift series, he posited that the "uplifted" sentient dolphins would mimic echolocation signals to beam images and short imagined movies directly into each other's heads. It's like we're becoming David Brin's dolphins. Someday, our tools will be so powerful and the interfaces so slick and efficient, we will just instantly produce little movies and beam them into each other's brains. We've already seen the effect of video on speech and syntax: "It was like..."
I've been haunted by moments in television as well, though.
The two final episodes of The Wire left me sleeplessly sitting in the garden, because of the events that transpired and the adrenaline involved.
The Body, one of the best Buffy episodes I can recall, left an impression on my young self that can still give me goosebumps when I think about it.
And the final episode of last season's Breaking Bad comes to mind, as well as the last episode so far.
I can't think of other occasions right away, but there are many more like it.
That said, on average books seem to have that effect more. Few things really topped how I felt after reading 'The Red Wedding' in A Song of Ice and Fire, for example. I think the main reason is that for television shows, the writers have to make many more concessions, because of producers, Nielsen ratings, and so on.
The two final episodes of The Wire left me sleeplessly sitting in the garden, because of the events that transpired and the adrenaline involved.
The Body, one of the best Buffy episodes I can recall, left an impression on my young self that can still give me goosebumps when I think about it.
And the final episode of last season's Breaking Bad comes to mind, as well as the last episode so far.
I can't think of other occasions right away, but there are many more like it.
That said, on average books seem to have that effect more. Few things really topped how I felt after reading 'The Red Wedding' in A Song of Ice and Fire, for example. I think the main reason is that for television shows, the writers have to make many more concessions, because of producers, Nielsen ratings, and so on.
It's a subjective experience, sure. I don't doubt you found some amazing words and it stayed stuck in your head.
Though, which is more likely? This world of people remembering lines to Star Wars or this world remember the explicit teachings of Jesus Christ?
Though, which is more likely? This world of people remembering lines to Star Wars or this world remember the explicit teachings of Jesus Christ?
> I'll defend.
I wasn't attacking anything.
Numbers 1, 3, and 4 have nothing to do with what I wrote. Number 2 sort of does, and, if you think we don't live in a text-based world anymore, look at blogs, essays, this site, code as text, etc. There is a large portion of the population is aliterate, but that's a loss.
I wasn't attacking anything.
Numbers 1, 3, and 4 have nothing to do with what I wrote. Number 2 sort of does, and, if you think we don't live in a text-based world anymore, look at blogs, essays, this site, code as text, etc. There is a large portion of the population is aliterate, but that's a loss.
Seems to me like the costs are wildly different though.
New normal are streams of everything.
> With Netflix spending a reported $100 million to produce two 13-episode seasons of House of Cards, they need 520,834 people to sign up for a $7.99 subscription for two years to break even.
Isn't that ignoring profit vs income?
Isn't that ignoring profit vs income?
When Netflix owns the content, their marginal costs per subscriber are near zero -- essentially just bandwidth and compute fees.
But out of those new subscribers, you need to filter out people who would have subscribed even if Netflix didn't have House of Cards
surely they have the tech to query up the number of new users that watched house of cards?
As an Australian who can't get Netflix without breaking the Netflix Terms of Service I suspect there's going to be an awful lot of downloading going on here, even moreso than the game of thrones situation we had where we were only just behind.
Now it's just 'off limits' entirely.
legally, anyway.
Now it's just 'off limits' entirely.
legally, anyway.
According a "friend";
Game of thrones gets downloaded by many tens of thousands in the first 24 hours. Episodes appear about 15 minutes after screening.
House of cards didn't make it to the torrents until 2 days after release and the numbers are nothing like game of thrones. Only half the episodes are available at this time.
As an Australian you could wait for it to be on TV, then it might be shown out of order, at all different (non-scheduled)times and episodes missed and cut.
Game of thrones gets downloaded by many tens of thousands in the first 24 hours. Episodes appear about 15 minutes after screening.
House of cards didn't make it to the torrents until 2 days after release and the numbers are nothing like game of thrones. Only half the episodes are available at this time.
As an Australian you could wait for it to be on TV, then it might be shown out of order, at all different (non-scheduled)times and episodes missed and cut.
According to their annual report, Netflix spent almost $500m on marketing last year.
I don't understand why people find it so inexplicable that they're spending $100m/yr on creating exclusive content as an extension to that.
I don't understand why people find it so inexplicable that they're spending $100m/yr on creating exclusive content as an extension to that.
Kevin Spacey should play Jeff Bezos in the Amazon biopic. (Jeff Bezos always reminded me of K-Pax.)
Will be fun to watch NFLX at the end of this upcoming quarter.
http://www.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ%3ANFLX&ei=Oz0PUaC...
They are going to have to promote the show heavily offline I'm guessing. I am a fan so far after only 1 episode.
They are going to have to promote the show heavily offline I'm guessing. I am a fan so far after only 1 episode.
If this model works than it is great for Apple and Google. TV "channels" move to becoming apps and it blows open the door for more than just a "hobby" project in the living room.
Even if $100mm seems a bit much for the show, Netflix's first entry into the exclusive content business had to be a hit. Once they've established themselves with quality content, they can later add some less expensive content without harming their reputation.
I'm interested to see how well House of Cards does and if it becomes popular enough for them to afford more exclusive content as well as negotiating lower content costs from other publishers.
I'm interested to see how well House of Cards does and if it becomes popular enough for them to afford more exclusive content as well as negotiating lower content costs from other publishers.
I just finished watching the 13 episodes of House of Cards season one this weekend and my very good friend is in acquisitions for a major network.
House of Cards is phenomenal, period.
"We believe that February 1st will be a defining moment in the development of Internet TV...The constraints of the linear TV grid will fall, one by one." - Page 5-6 Letter to shareholders http://goo.gl/VBGv6
Look beyond the short term $100M price tag for this one show, this is a shift in power. Netflix is building an old stone house...
“Money is the McMansion in Sarasota that starts falling apart after 10 years. Power is the old stone house that stands for centuries. I cannot respect someone who doesn’t see the difference.” - Francis Underwood on House of Cards
Netflix is becoming truly vertically integrated.
House of Cards is phenomenal, period.
"We believe that February 1st will be a defining moment in the development of Internet TV...The constraints of the linear TV grid will fall, one by one." - Page 5-6 Letter to shareholders http://goo.gl/VBGv6
Look beyond the short term $100M price tag for this one show, this is a shift in power. Netflix is building an old stone house...
“Money is the McMansion in Sarasota that starts falling apart after 10 years. Power is the old stone house that stands for centuries. I cannot respect someone who doesn’t see the difference.” - Francis Underwood on House of Cards
Netflix is becoming truly vertically integrated.
This is the kind of disruption that we actually need for traditional media companies.