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Quora Is Totalitairian
http://www.quora.com/Quora-Account-Suspension-and-Bans/Why-was-Heather-Ferreira-banned-from-Quora/answer/Adisa-Nicholson
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That still doesn't give Quora a right to go round censoring things and deleting her account without her permission. There's no excuse.
But what about the others who got banned in totalitarian rule as well? http://qph.cf.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-b7a5cbb9e10f85e63644a73...
He's already banned for that tweet within 3 hours. Are they going to delete his account next? Am I going to get banned for posting this?
Don't you think she's already complained to moderation nicely, to no avail, hence posting that answer?
But what about the others who got banned in totalitarian rule as well? http://qph.cf.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-b7a5cbb9e10f85e63644a73...
He's already banned for that tweet within 3 hours. Are they going to delete his account next? Am I going to get banned for posting this?
Don't you think she's already complained to moderation nicely, to no avail, hence posting that answer?
>That still doesn't give Quora a right to go round censoring things and deleting her account without her permission. There's no excuse.
Huh? Quora have a rule, she violated it, they deleted her account. That sounds like how it's meant to work.
Huh? Quora have a rule, she violated it, they deleted her account. That sounds like how it's meant to work.
The Be Nice rule is the most ambiguous rule on the planet. Interpret it as you wish.
And no, they're not supposed to delete your account after you're banned. That's out of place, not their protocol.
And no, they're not supposed to delete your account after you're banned. That's out of place, not their protocol.
Don't be a jerk.
I like Wikipedia's version better:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_be_a_dick
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_be_a_dick
This sort of hyperbole is unhelpful.
North Korea is totalitarian. Nazi Germany was totalitarian. The Soviet Union was totalitarian. Criticising the government could get you executed, or imprisoned in a far away forced labour camp for a long time.
Quora is a website. They can, er, ban you from using their website. That might be a stupid, not very nice action for them to carry out, but it's not totalitarian.
North Korea is totalitarian. Nazi Germany was totalitarian. The Soviet Union was totalitarian. Criticising the government could get you executed, or imprisoned in a far away forced labour camp for a long time.
Quora is a website. They can, er, ban you from using their website. That might be a stupid, not very nice action for them to carry out, but it's not totalitarian.
The hyperbole is helpful.
First they ban accounts and sometimes delete them to make the person disappear without a trace, and secondly they prohibit you from asking why certain people got banned. This censorship prevents people from acknowledging that certain people existed.
Criticising Quora on Quora will get you banned without prior warning, and in some instances have your account deleted without a trace.
And when you're banned or disappeared, nobody is allowed ask why that happened, as those questions get censored.
Think of it like this when you criticise Quora. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/91/Voroshilo... http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bd/The_Commi... And then being censored when you ask why the person force disappeared.
First they ban accounts and sometimes delete them to make the person disappear without a trace, and secondly they prohibit you from asking why certain people got banned. This censorship prevents people from acknowledging that certain people existed.
Criticising Quora on Quora will get you banned without prior warning, and in some instances have your account deleted without a trace.
And when you're banned or disappeared, nobody is allowed ask why that happened, as those questions get censored.
Think of it like this when you criticise Quora. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/91/Voroshilo... http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bd/The_Commi... And then being censored when you ask why the person force disappeared.
They also libel you after you have been banned because you cannot respond.
Content providers are not subject to the same laws of libel as, for example, newspapers.
see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cubby,_Inc._v._CompuServe_Inc.
And the subsequent Section 230 of the CDA: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_230_of_the_Communicatio...
see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cubby,_Inc._v._CompuServe_Inc.
And the subsequent Section 230 of the CDA: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_230_of_the_Communicatio...
When the admins who run the "content providers" are engaging in libel themselves, about the people that use(d) their service, it's a whole different ball game.
In no way was it implied that an ISP or other information transfer network (ie. the post), had to moderate its data transfers.
This is about the specific service that uses the network, not the network.
In no way was it implied that an ISP or other information transfer network (ie. the post), had to moderate its data transfers.
This is about the specific service that uses the network, not the network.
Admins are for the most part volunteers who do not work for or represent the company.
But you are right, if company employees are saying things specifically about people that would be considered libelous that's a problem.
But you are right, if company employees are saying things specifically about people that would be considered libelous that's a problem.
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There is something crazy going on at Quora. It seems hellbent on driving off all of its best posters and keeping the mediocrities.
Sounds like a clear violation of the "be nice" rule to me. I don't know enough about Quora to know what kind of tone is normal there, but I would be perfectly happy with a community that banned anyone who spoke like that.