Please don’t film me in 2023(theverge.com)
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Please don’t film me in 2023
https://www.theverge.com/2022/12/26/23519605/tiktok-viral-videos-privacy-surveillance-street-interviews-vlogs
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When I worked in film/tv production we were perpetually getting signed releases from people who were in the shot. Is this just not a thing now? Or is the downside so low that nobody cares?
I've watched some Japanese video creators on YouTube and so often when they film streets they frame their shot so as to cut off the faces of those in public (whether by tilting the camera, or shooting a crowd where everyone is walking away). It's so polite, so considerate <3
I'm not sure what it's called, but I've seen a product which is a database of the time/location of US car license plate sightings. As I understand it, these are OCR'd from a combination of private, and public footage. I wonder if something similar exists for faces, and if some company is performing facial recognition on publicly uploaded footage. It sounds quite paranoid, however we know for a fact that such technology exists, and that there's a motivation for it.
In Germany filming strangers without consent is forbidden.
Unless laws are passed to make filming others in public, this is unlikely to ever stop. Chances are, such laws will not get passed as it will intrude on civil liberties and free expression of many. I also recommend against swatting away, as the author in the Verge concludes he/she will do, at someone's phone if they don't consent to being recorded. You run the risk of breaking someone's phone that way, giving potential rise to increased conflict or a small claims suit. Best response is to walk away or ignore.
Feel like this article is trying to tie many disparate complaints about people filming in public together.
It at one time criticizes the surveillance state and then also tries to connect it to the "man on the street" format.
Seems simply like a compilation of complaints by someone who doesn't like to be filmed in public.
It at one time criticizes the surveillance state and then also tries to connect it to the "man on the street" format.
Seems simply like a compilation of complaints by someone who doesn't like to be filmed in public.
Bring back Surveillance Camera Man
In California, they owe you at least $750.[1] Celebrities can claim more, but everybody is entitled to as least $750.
[1] https://california.public.law/codes/ca_civ_code_section_3344
[1] https://california.public.law/codes/ca_civ_code_section_3344
If you don't have my consent then at the very least blur my features. I remember wearing Google Glass in Germany and I was looked at in fear. Since, they have enacted stricter privacy laws. We should look at it them as an example much like the world looks at the US for freedom related issues. One example in Germany is that suspects of a crime are not identified and the "perp walk" may be filmed and shown on the media but it is with blurred features. Freedom and privacy must be balanced.
It's also time to take down the satellites. The planned low orbit constellations leave no space on earth for people to hide or be free. National security or not, i truly hope there is a space war that will render the orbital space a dangerous zone for any army to operate. I'm fine with communication through terrestial cables only.
> TikTok’s For You page has probably served you up a version of this kind of thing — the world first met Corn Kid
The world didn't meet 'Corn Kid', whatever that is, the Venn diagram circle that is TikTok users may have.
The intersection with the circle that is 'people who think this behaviour is bizarre and vile' is small, but those in it should take comfort in the fact that that second circle is very large, and the first probably a lot smaller, perhaps a lot more ephemeral, than they may think.
The world didn't meet 'Corn Kid', whatever that is, the Venn diagram circle that is TikTok users may have.
The intersection with the circle that is 'people who think this behaviour is bizarre and vile' is small, but those in it should take comfort in the fact that that second circle is very large, and the first probably a lot smaller, perhaps a lot more ephemeral, than they may think.
I fear public sentiment against filming will result in average people being unable to film while government and big business continue to quietly film en masse.
Are these videos generating revenue for their uploaders? Could any lawyers around here comment on the viability of suing?
Else what's the point of Hollywood studios being so laser-eyed about making sure everyone signs releases?
Else what's the point of Hollywood studios being so laser-eyed about making sure everyone signs releases?
A bunch of nerds whinging about laws and rules for protection?
Where are the real tech solutions?
The autofocus jammers?
The ultrasonic microphone overdrive scramblers?
The infrared iris scramblers?
When did we lose control over the space around us?
Take back our personal space!
Where are the real tech solutions?
The autofocus jammers?
The ultrasonic microphone overdrive scramblers?
The infrared iris scramblers?
When did we lose control over the space around us?
Take back our personal space!
We should normalize wearing small, flashing led diodes to break camera shots, and adversarial clothing to defeat facial recognition and similar technologies.
They should normalize smart phones having a sliding door over the cameras and a small red recording LED. It's perfect.
> In the case of random TikTok creators, it’s clear the level of consent and notice runs the gamut.
I am reading this like this: When Verge is doing this, it is obviously legit and obviously not when it’s Tiktokers. Without backing this with any data.
I am reading this like this: When Verge is doing this, it is obviously legit and obviously not when it’s Tiktokers. Without backing this with any data.
> In my favorite TikTok video of 2022, ...
Where is the video? At least provide a link.
Where is the video? At least provide a link.
I had some kids walk up on me in a mall sticking a speaker into my face asking some question.
I was eating and had my mouth full. So I just stared the main content creator in the eyes and preserved the awkward silence.
Kids don’t know how to deal with that. He ended up apologising, saying he’ll delete the thing, and walked away before I had finished chewing. :-)
I was eating and had my mouth full. So I just stared the main content creator in the eyes and preserved the awkward silence.
Kids don’t know how to deal with that. He ended up apologising, saying he’ll delete the thing, and walked away before I had finished chewing. :-)
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Especially the (sometimes intentionally provoked) outrage videos of Karens, road rage incidents, or fights, seem quite toxic to society as a whole.
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Don’t post articles like this. You’re feeding the beast. Hear me out:
This shit doesn’t matter. We’re all very unlikely to be interviewed on the street like this by some influencer. Even if we are, tough shit, we’re in public, people are allowed to approach us and even film us. It happens. Be polite and decline and that’s it, story’s over. Nobody cares.
But no, the story is isn’t over! The Verge wrote a big long article about this stupid thing you and I have never heard of, and now here it is on HN.
Manufactured controversy: annoyingly, it’s controversy that feeds into the negative feelings that media and social media tend to propagate.
By reading and sharing this article, the original influencers get more publicity and follows, so they’re more likely to do this stuff more.
This shit doesn’t matter. We’re all very unlikely to be interviewed on the street like this by some influencer. Even if we are, tough shit, we’re in public, people are allowed to approach us and even film us. It happens. Be polite and decline and that’s it, story’s over. Nobody cares.
But no, the story is isn’t over! The Verge wrote a big long article about this stupid thing you and I have never heard of, and now here it is on HN.
Manufactured controversy: annoyingly, it’s controversy that feeds into the negative feelings that media and social media tend to propagate.
By reading and sharing this article, the original influencers get more publicity and follows, so they’re more likely to do this stuff more.
Sure, it’s legal to film people in public in the US without their consent. But it’s also shitty. Those two things can both be true.
Maybe we might all be better off practicing DBAD: Don’t Be A Dick.