Sony releases its first over-the-counter hearing aids(engadget.com)
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Sony releases its first over-the-counter hearing aids
https://www.engadget.com/sony-unveils-1000-over-the-counter-hearing-aids-131152865.html
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Any word on how necessary the app is? Not really comfortable with the direction this technology is going when it has to be paired with an app, with your data sent to who know who.
> Not really comfortable with the direction this technology is going when it has to be paired with an app
Even worse is that the app appears to only be distributed on either the Apple or Google store - thus requiring an account with a third party.
Even worse is that the app appears to only be distributed on either the Apple or Google store - thus requiring an account with a third party.
If you get your hands on a pair of these, you could try to do a Wireshark capture and maybe it could be added into Gadgetbridge [2]
See recent work on Sony WF-1000XM4 [1] as an example.
[1] https://codeberg.org/Freeyourgadget/Gadgetbridge/issues/2925
[2] https://codeberg.org/Freeyourgadget/Gadgetbridge
See recent work on Sony WF-1000XM4 [1] as an example.
[1] https://codeberg.org/Freeyourgadget/Gadgetbridge/issues/2925
[2] https://codeberg.org/Freeyourgadget/Gadgetbridge
Agreed, saw mobile app and noped out of there. A floss app on my computer sure.
If it’s like the app for other Sony wireless, it’ll still work without the app but is needed to fine-tune behavior and update firmware.
> Not really comfortable with the direction this technology is going when it has to be paired with an app
I extremely agree. The fact that most people have phones nowdays is exploited without limits - what if someone just doesn't want to have a phone? Suddenly, a large amount of things are just unavailable for them. And that is considered okay because "nobody is forcing you to have all those things".
At least if having a phone was made mandatory by the government, the public could demand some kind of standards of privacy and security. This way, it's the worst of both worlds - phones are de-facto mandatory, but they're not officially mandatory, so phone manufacturers can do whatever they want because "nobody is forcing you to have a phone"... And all the other manufacturers can require you to have a phone because "everyone has a phone, duh".
I extremely agree. The fact that most people have phones nowdays is exploited without limits - what if someone just doesn't want to have a phone? Suddenly, a large amount of things are just unavailable for them. And that is considered okay because "nobody is forcing you to have all those things".
At least if having a phone was made mandatory by the government, the public could demand some kind of standards of privacy and security. This way, it's the worst of both worlds - phones are de-facto mandatory, but they're not officially mandatory, so phone manufacturers can do whatever they want because "nobody is forcing you to have a phone"... And all the other manufacturers can require you to have a phone because "everyone has a phone, duh".
My father got his hearing aids about two months ago. It cost $4,000 plus the audiologist’s fees, plus the time to go there to be fitted and have some adjustments. He’s still adjusting but he can hear my daughter when she talks to him and they’ve improved his quality of life in meaningful ways.
I think there’s a lot to be said for lowering the barrier of entry for hearing aids, as the cost and effort to find the right audiologist and complete the purchase was daunting. But for my dad, an 85-year old man who’s barely getting by with his iPhone 8, the traditional audiologist path has worked out very well for him. I doubt that shopping for OTC hearing aids and going through the setup experience by himself (or, more likely, being dragged along by me) would have been better. Almost more importantly, his audiologist has been a gentle, calming, reassuring resource to help him through the challenging process of adapting to them.
But the experience was initially stressful and only happened because I found his audiologist and essentially blackmailed him into doing it. The cost was upsetting to him, our family forced him to accept our help as a birthday gift. I think we lucked out with our audiologist and I’ve read plenty of reviews from people like my father who wind up working with the wrong professionals, getting the wrong equipment, and feeling like they threw away thousands of dollars. In fact, my father was one of them: he secretly embarked on this journey once about two years ago and spent $4000 on a bad device sold by a cold professional.
So, that is all to say: none of this is easy. It seems my own father has experienced the best and worst of the traditional hearing aid industry. But I think the OTC approach could have its own set of pitfalls, especially for an older population that might not be comfortable with technology. Ultimately, the competition within the market will be good for consumers. I’m interested to see how the service side of the industry evolves.
I think there’s a lot to be said for lowering the barrier of entry for hearing aids, as the cost and effort to find the right audiologist and complete the purchase was daunting. But for my dad, an 85-year old man who’s barely getting by with his iPhone 8, the traditional audiologist path has worked out very well for him. I doubt that shopping for OTC hearing aids and going through the setup experience by himself (or, more likely, being dragged along by me) would have been better. Almost more importantly, his audiologist has been a gentle, calming, reassuring resource to help him through the challenging process of adapting to them.
But the experience was initially stressful and only happened because I found his audiologist and essentially blackmailed him into doing it. The cost was upsetting to him, our family forced him to accept our help as a birthday gift. I think we lucked out with our audiologist and I’ve read plenty of reviews from people like my father who wind up working with the wrong professionals, getting the wrong equipment, and feeling like they threw away thousands of dollars. In fact, my father was one of them: he secretly embarked on this journey once about two years ago and spent $4000 on a bad device sold by a cold professional.
So, that is all to say: none of this is easy. It seems my own father has experienced the best and worst of the traditional hearing aid industry. But I think the OTC approach could have its own set of pitfalls, especially for an older population that might not be comfortable with technology. Ultimately, the competition within the market will be good for consumers. I’m interested to see how the service side of the industry evolves.
I admit I have hearing issues, not enough for a hearing aid, but tech like this would help me a great deal, it's surprising that it hasn't been widely available before. The price seems a bit exorbitant though, will cheaper knock offs be as good though?
I forgot the name, but there are hearing aid ear buds exactly for this situation.
Cheaper versions have been available. This is a first for Sony, not for over-the-counter hearing aids.
https://www.google.com/search?q=non+prescription+hearing+aid...
https://www.google.com/search?q=non+prescription+hearing+aid...
I'd politely suggest that if your hearing is bad enough to be noticeable, then it is definitely enough to look into getting hearing aids. Hearing aids for those with only mild hearing loss can be very discreet.
There is evidence to suggest that living with even mild hearing impairment can accelerate cognitive decline (though I don't know if there is yet evidence that this can be prevented by using hearing aids).
There is evidence to suggest that living with even mild hearing impairment can accelerate cognitive decline (though I don't know if there is yet evidence that this can be prevented by using hearing aids).
Why did this have to go all the way upto the president to become a thing? Can someone explain how the law works here? To me it seems like extreme top down— white house has 10x more important things to focus on.
I love this trend & wish we'd had access to technology like this when my grandmother was alive.
I thought the point was affordability? 1000$ isn't it.
> While the prices are still not what you'd call cheap, they're far less than prescription hearing aids that can run $1,000-$4,000 per ear, according to Consumer Reports.
Um, well-received consumer grade noise-canceling earbuds are typically $350/pair.
I have been down this rabbit hole (you can imagine why) and $1300/PAIR for auto-adjusting, personalized hearing-aid that can be had OTC is frinkin steal. That’s less than the cost of just being evaluated and measured if your insurance is less than stellar.
I have been down this rabbit hole (you can imagine why) and $1300/PAIR for auto-adjusting, personalized hearing-aid that can be had OTC is frinkin steal. That’s less than the cost of just being evaluated and measured if your insurance is less than stellar.