BlackBerry, Skype, Google face India data demand(news.idg.no)
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BlackBerry, Skype, Google face India data demand
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Although it's presented as an anti-terrorism measure, one of the benefits of unfettered access to Blackberry communications is the potential for economic spying on multinationals with offices in India.
"one of the benefits of unfettered access to Blackberry communications is the potential for economic spying on multinationals with offices in India"
This is all very James Bond-ey, but anyone who works with the Indian govt and its electronics surveillance infrastructure and agencies (I do) knows it is no shape to do and has no intent of doing any kind of effective "economic spying". That's China not India. Wrong country.
On the other hand there have been instances of non-state actors using Blackberries to communicate with some very nasty people. I personally don't agree with the need to have access to all Blackberry communication to track these people down, but bureaucrats aren't very technical. The intent is security, not economic spying. If you have any data or personal experience pointing the other way, I'd love to hear it.
This is all very James Bond-ey, but anyone who works with the Indian govt and its electronics surveillance infrastructure and agencies (I do) knows it is no shape to do and has no intent of doing any kind of effective "economic spying". That's China not India. Wrong country.
On the other hand there have been instances of non-state actors using Blackberries to communicate with some very nasty people. I personally don't agree with the need to have access to all Blackberry communication to track these people down, but bureaucrats aren't very technical. The intent is security, not economic spying. If you have any data or personal experience pointing the other way, I'd love to hear it.
If it is not currently able to do effective economic spying, it soon will be (once this legislation is in place).
China is hardly the only country to do economic spying. It's more the norm than the exception. To claim otherwise is either naive or disingenuous.
China is hardly the only country to do economic spying. It's more the norm than the exception. To claim otherwise is either naive or disingenuous.
Get real, there will be leaks of business data if this goes throught. Indian administration is already very corrupt at all levels.
In other words you have no data or facts of any kind. Any instances of organized economic espionage as a policy by the Indian Government from before the days of the BlackBerry? I thought not. "Get Real" isn't an argument.
Any instances of corrupt bureaucrats (they exist, sure) using an Intelligence Agency to expedite their corruption by intercepting Multinational Communications? Any instances of non blackberry spying on Multinationals, hacking into their computers etc(like what happened with Google in China)? Do tell.
Any instances of corrupt bureaucrats (they exist, sure) using an Intelligence Agency to expedite their corruption by intercepting Multinational Communications? Any instances of non blackberry spying on Multinationals, hacking into their computers etc(like what happened with Google in China)? Do tell.
I see, Indian government hires only super humans, who never ever take a bribe. http://www.google.com/search?q=india+bribe
The point is not whether individuals take bribes. Of course some do.
The subject under discussion is your implication that the request for decrypted BlackBerry data (which is being driven by the Intelligence agencies and the Home ministry) is done so with an intention to facilitate such bribery by intercepting multinational communications.
US senators are bribed too. That doesn't mean that the CIA , the DHS or the NSA makes it their business to facilitate such corruption or that any anti terrorism policy adopted by the US government is automatically targeted towards benefiting such bribe takers.
The latter accusation would need more proof then "Well in my ignorant paranoia I think this would happen" . Do you also believe that the US Govt brought down the Twin Towers? After all not everyone in the US Govt is a superhuman patriot who would never work against his own country? After all many foreigners think (with good reason) that the US is a very warmongering country. Is that a good enough rationale?
The subject under discussion is your implication that the request for decrypted BlackBerry data (which is being driven by the Intelligence agencies and the Home ministry) is done so with an intention to facilitate such bribery by intercepting multinational communications.
US senators are bribed too. That doesn't mean that the CIA , the DHS or the NSA makes it their business to facilitate such corruption or that any anti terrorism policy adopted by the US government is automatically targeted towards benefiting such bribe takers.
The latter accusation would need more proof then "Well in my ignorant paranoia I think this would happen" . Do you also believe that the US Govt brought down the Twin Towers? After all not everyone in the US Govt is a superhuman patriot who would never work against his own country? After all many foreigners think (with good reason) that the US is a very warmongering country. Is that a good enough rationale?
Regardless of the intent, it opens the door for abuse. It's like leaving a loaded gun in your baby's crib. Regardless of your good intentions, the potential for something to go bad is too great for it to be worthwhile.
"The subject under discussion is your implication that the request for decrypted BlackBerry data (which is being driven by the Intelligence agencies and the Home ministry) is done so with an intention to facilitate such bribery by intercepting multinational communications."
Really? I must have misspelled something ;)
Really? I must have misspelled something ;)
every government when it comes to know of benefits its competitors/neighbors got, would ask for the same.
Google and may others shared every private citizen specific info with china, Indian government wants the same features.
India is the largest growing mobile market, 500million+ mobiles. it is easier to enforce mobile related laws. with 3G launch imminent, and internet on mobile going to explode, they have very few options.
Google and may others shared every private citizen specific info with china, Indian government wants the same features.
India is the largest growing mobile market, 500million+ mobiles. it is easier to enforce mobile related laws. with 3G launch imminent, and internet on mobile going to explode, they have very few options.
What makes this request even more unbelievable is that they want full access to the data in 15 days.