nfrmatk

7 maanden geledendiscuss

I was also frustrated to find the examples weren't inline, but I think this is a guest blog post which makes it a bit more understandable.

nfrmatk

10 maanden geledendiscuss

I wonder if the author has heard of KDL: https://kdl.dev/

nfrmatk

vorig jaardiscuss

There's a fun RustConf talk on this topic from a few years ago. https://youtu.be/tNVDjMxCz-c

nfrmatk

2 jaar geledendiscuss

I've been using Delta for a few years now and absolutely love it. Huge improvement to my command line diff viewing!

nfrmatk

2 jaar geledendiscuss

It seems to me that the point of the article is that "all the demand" is not just for C++, C, Java, Typescript, Python, etc. There is increasing demand from larger companies for Rust.

No one is forcing you to learn Rust. You don't have to bring yourself spend time learning it. You can keep writing those other languages.

Those languages have been around for a while and they'll continue to be around for a while more. Rust is just getting some time on that stage as well now.

nfrmatk

2 jaar geledendiscuss

That's the most constructive takeaway you have when looking at all their work? That's an unnecessarily limited view and doesn't add to the conversation.

From my vantage point their work fits the definition nicely.

"A collective body" [1] ... "Collectivized or characterized by collectivism" [1] ... "A political or economic theory advocating collective control especially over production and distribution" [2]

[1]: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/collective [2]: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/collectivism

nfrmatk

2 jaar geledendiscuss

If you like this you might also like Nick Fitzgerald's 2019 RustConf talk: Flatulence, Crystals, and Happy Little Accidents.

https://youtu.be/Ho3xr4b60Zg

nfrmatk

3 jaar geledendiscuss

In truth, that's exactly what it is. My point in writing this wasn't to say "Ooh, look at Rust being so much better". The original PHP is wonderful and there is definitely something lost in a Rust translation. Other things gained as well. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

This blog post is just a personal journey winding through the thought process it took to replicate that PHP in Rust, something I did because I thought I might learn something.

nfrmatk

3 jaar geledendiscuss

https://tuckersiemens.com Just a log of my personal journey through tech. I don't post much, maybe once a year, but I have fun maintaining it.

nfrmatk

3 jaar geledendiscuss

I think Gary Bernhardt's corresponding Boundaries conference talk [1] is quite good, particularly because of how pragmatic he is in introducing the topic.

I have been thinking about and trying to work with this paradigm for a few years now. To be honest, it's been a struggle. Partly because it requires unlearning some habits and partly because there's limited opportunity to practice in my $DAYJOB where I'm working in codebases heavily invested in other paradigms.

I've seen and read many, many videos, blog posts, etc. on this topic. Everyone loves to introduce the concept with a contrived example and then stop there. What I would love to see more of are complete examples for everything from simple to complex applications.

I think there's potentially a lot of value in thinking this way (or at least taking as much from it as you can), but it's hard to learn and then to teach others without more examples to draw on.

[1]: https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/boundaries

nfrmatk

4 jaar geledendiscuss

In case you haven't seen it already, Cliff Biffle's "Learn Rust the Dangerous Way" might be of interest to you.

https://cliffle.com/p/dangerust/

nfrmatk

4 jaar geledendiscuss

https://tuckersiemens.com

I try to keep it simple, HTML, Sass (but really just vanilla CSS), and no JS. I generate the site with Zola (https://www.getzola.org/), which has been fantastic. Nothing fancy here, probably write a post once a year, but I have fun doing so.

nfrmatk

5 jaar geledendiscuss

Congrats to the release team! I'm really excited to work with the new structural pattern matching. This feels like the biggest language change since the addition of async/await.

nfrmatk

5 jaar geledendiscuss

Personally, I'd say it's worth it now. I've been dabbling in Rust for a few years and while I still don't get to use it at $DAYJOB it's been a huge benefit to me. Those "esoteric" concepts have bled into other languages and my usage of them, making me a better programmer overall. Read a chapter of "The Book" once a month or so over the next 3 years and I wager you'll find yourself in a better place than had you waited 3 years to start.

nfrmatk

6 jaar geledendiscuss

Personally, I reserve "clickbait" for links with no substance or value on the other side of the click, but I understand what you mean.

Yes, the intent of the title is to get your attention, but I'm not trying to get you to buy anything, collecting or selling user data, etc.

I really just wrote the post to share a debugging experience I had this year. It doesn't have to do with IPv{4,6} addresses themselves or any specification thereof, but it does relate to the Python 2 `ipaddress` library's handling of them and a pitfall you can accidentally find yourself in.

A dry, but more accurate title might have been

> Python 2's ipaddress library considers "node.example.com" an IPv6 Address

nfrmatk

6 jaar geledendiscuss

Is this an intentional troll? The post explains why those results are meaningless in this context.

nfrmatk

6 jaar geledendiscuss

I generally agree that the web could be simpler. A lot can be accomplished with just plain ol' HTML/CSS nowadays. I think there's a kernel of truth in what you're saying about apps vs. websites.

That said, how would you propose to do syntax highlighting instead of

> just a wall of <div>s and <span>s, for every single visible character

? Rather than being a wall, it looks to me like it's actually a tree of <divs> and <span>s for every line and every _token_.

I think the author has used Prism[1], so I assume the highlighting was done client-side, but even if you were to do the task server-side I think you'd end up with similar HTML/CSS, no?

What would be a better approach to solving the same problem?

[1]: https://prismjs.com/

nfrmatk

6 jaar geledendiscuss

That might just come down to the usual differences between Python and Ruby. A Python programmer would likely appreciate an explicit call to `subprocess.run`.

Some equivalent Python 3.7+ would be

  import subprocess
  listing = subprocess.run(("ls", "-oh"), capture_output=True, encoding="utf-8")
  print(listing.stdout)
  print(listing.returncode)

As an experienced Ruby programmer I imagine the code you provided looks like a no-brainer. To a Ruby neophyte the backticks, $? sigil, and .to_i method don't strike me as intuitive (but maybe they would be do someone else). We may just have to disagree about the nicety of syntax.

As cle mentioned[1], the strongest criteria is

> what would the majority of people on the team prefer to use?

and I'd agree that ultimately that's what makes the most sense.

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24558989

nfrmatk

6 jaar geledendiscuss

Nicer syntax? Vastly better standard library? Those seem like subjective statements to me. Can you provide some examples to support those claims?

nfrmatk

6 jaar geledendiscuss

I think that you can do something like this with VS Code's Live Share[1] feature. And I think it's possible to do read-only sessions as well. Been a while since I looked at that feature though, so I'm not certain.

[1]: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/visualstudio/liveshare/use/...

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