My apologies, I was referring to immediately putting sous vide items in a 50+% ice bath. I had turned off the Sous Vide and forgot about it. When I came back, the 10 gallon bucket was close to room temperature 24 hours later.
Upon further reading, it appears I could have served it immediately. Maybe. But the warm pasturization won't kill certain bacteria which can then proliferate. Which is why transiting the danger zone of 140f down to 40f very fast is necessary.
"Moreover, while keeping the food sealed in plastic pouches prevents recontamination after cooking, spores of Clostridium botulinum, C. perfringens and B. cereus can all survive the mild heat treatment of pasteurization. Therefore, after rapid chilling, the food must either be frozen or held at
below 36.5°F (2.5°C) for up to 90 days,
below 38°F (3.3°C) for less than 31 days,
below 41°F (5°C) for less than 10 days, or
below 44.5°F (7°C) for less than 5 days
to prevent spores of non-proteolytic C. botulinum from outgrowing and producing deadly neurotoxin (Gould, 1999; Peck, 1997)." [1]
Tangentially related, I sous vide some pork chops about a month ago, and forgot to take them out of the water bath in time for safe cool down and consumption.
I decided to keep them submerged in water in their original vacuum sealed bags, just to see what would happen.
So far, 1 month later, in about 16c water, they APPEAR the same. No gas buildup expanding the packaging and causing floatation. Just white looking meat in a bag.
Not sure how long this experiment will last, but considering 4 pork chops, I think it's time to take one out and open it up.
TL:DR; toilet seats and bathrooms are perfectly safe. Wash your hands.
I must be a very dirty person, because this article is very pedantic, and I would never consider any of these suggestions. I don't even wash my hands half the time, just run them under water so the other people in the house think I am civil and wash my hands after flushing the toilet.
Squat if you have the muscles, but be sure to aim because you might increase the risk to the next person?
This is just so absurd to me to be lectured by Health Officials and the NYT with then providing solutions to problems that dont exist.
Like seriously, the ONLY pathogen they could identify that COULD be picked up by the butt skin is MRSA. It's low risk, there are no stats or proof that MRSA is transmitted through public washroom seats.
And that risk averseness is parlayed into a virtue signalling lecture about squatting to avoid the non-risky public toilet seat, BUT OF COURSE be sure to (not shit everywhere) protect your fellow citizen from the non-risk of sitting on a dirty toilet seat.
I can get in this state too, Lightheaded helps, worn out helps, tired eyes from looking at a screen helps.
Then for some immediate relief, I will squeeze my nose bridge from the eye socket from both sides.
And in that moment of relaxation, I will see stars. Probably from starting to breath slower, it's a lack of oxygen caused faintness, then the light and fractals and patterns come in. If I relax, and dont blink, just chill, they will slowly grow larger. Blink or stop focusing and it goes away.
I think it has something to do with the liquid environment of the eye, and how tired and watery it can be. Squeezing that water away to another part seems to short circuit the eye and give fuzzy electrical sparks and fractal patterns.
This seems to be a wishful article. The signed letter is either "activist employees" (fireable offense), or about "working conditions" (wrongful termination due to retaliation)
"It strikes me as a letter that is mainly about working conditions,’ one lawyer said" (original article)
Vs.
“Elon’s behavior in the public sphere is a frequent source of distraction and embarrassment for us, particularly in recent weeks,” the letter states. “As our CEO and most prominent spokesperson, Elon is seen as the face of SpaceX — every Tweet that Elon sends is a de facto public statement by the company. It is critical to make clear to our teams and to our potential talent pool that his messaging does not reflect our work, our mission, or our values.” [1]
I know exactly what that paragraph sounds like to me..... Whiney SJWs.
Horrible, horrible, irrelevant study taking advantage of a public health crisis to use government money to study propoganda techniques on humanity.
They had "robust" finding before the vaccine was even out. It turns out you CAN mock and shame people into compliance when they know next to nothing and have very little experience in the subject. Makes complete sense. I'm only picking an arguement or a fight when I have an arguement to make. How do you push back against this stuff when there is no COVID vaccine history to use as supporting evidence? You don't. Just ignore. But when FORCED to make a declaration, people choose the easy way out.
After the vaccine had been out for 10 months, memes had no effect.
So do memes work? Or does mockery work? Or does it take ignorance of a subject AND mockery to get theoretical compliance?
The study is self reported. Would be interested to know the ACTUAL vaccination outcomes of these individuals.
I would suspect some would be resentful of being mocked, say the right things, and retaliate by not taking the vaccine.
Upon further reading, it appears I could have served it immediately. Maybe. But the warm pasturization won't kill certain bacteria which can then proliferate. Which is why transiting the danger zone of 140f down to 40f very fast is necessary.
"Moreover, while keeping the food sealed in plastic pouches prevents recontamination after cooking, spores of Clostridium botulinum, C. perfringens and B. cereus can all survive the mild heat treatment of pasteurization. Therefore, after rapid chilling, the food must either be frozen or held at
to prevent spores of non-proteolytic C. botulinum from outgrowing and producing deadly neurotoxin (Gould, 1999; Peck, 1997)." [1]
[1] https://www.cheftalk.com/threads/sous-vide-botulism.63351/