Please, delete all new places since the start of war 23th of February(support.google.com)
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Please, delete all new places since the start of war 23th of February
https://support.google.com/maps/thread/152812942/please-delete-all-new-places-since-the-start-of-war-23th-of-february-save-ukrainian-civilians-from?hl=en
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That's why some countries have weird regulations about maps. South Korea does not allow exporting vector maps, so Google Maps rendering is vector based everywhere except in a region surrounding South Korea [1]. China applies a (not so) secret pseudorandom offset to all geographic coordinates in online maps, frequently resulting in mismatches between systems that apply corrections and those that don't. It seems silly during peacetime but when there's an actual war, you can see why people might want that kind of thing.
And militaries all over the globe do use Google Maps extensively, if not by policy then just by soldiers doing their own thing. Wrong borders in Google Maps have nearly led to international incidents when soldiers ended up on the wrong side of a border. And then there are the disputed borders that Google is forced to display differently in different countries. There is no globally accepted map and as a result the map Google shows you changes depending on where you're located.
[1] Actually I am out of date, it looks like the South Korea maps are vector based now. Maybe the law changed. It definitely used to be the case.
And militaries all over the globe do use Google Maps extensively, if not by policy then just by soldiers doing their own thing. Wrong borders in Google Maps have nearly led to international incidents when soldiers ended up on the wrong side of a border. And then there are the disputed borders that Google is forced to display differently in different countries. There is no globally accepted map and as a result the map Google shows you changes depending on where you're located.
[1] Actually I am out of date, it looks like the South Korea maps are vector based now. Maybe the law changed. It definitely used to be the case.
It will be hard to delete all of these points if Google doesn't cooperate. Instead, Ukrainians should massively add thousands of fake and duplicate points. Got a cousin in the countryside who needs their field ploughed? Call in a Russian artillery strike by tagging it as a military camp on Google Maps.
I almost can't believe the Russian army is so... trashy.
For the army of a state willing to be completely independent of the West to use an American web based service for military purposes, and to do it in a way other people can see it is sloppy to the point of tragedy.
Or maybe that's an elaborate attempt to do psychological warfare?
For the army of a state willing to be completely independent of the West to use an American web based service for military purposes, and to do it in a way other people can see it is sloppy to the point of tragedy.
Or maybe that's an elaborate attempt to do psychological warfare?
Anyone can edit/place google maps markers, is there any concrete evidence that this is actually being used by the Russian army instead of some trolls?
Somewhat related (note that Google did respond within 3 days):
https://www.vice.com/en/article/xgd7dd/google-maps-live-traf... ("Google Maps Live Traffic Showed the Russian Invasion of Ukraine") (2/24)
https://www.reuters.com/technology/google-temporarily-disabl... ("Google temporarily disables Google Maps live traffic data in Ukraine") (2/27)
https://www.vice.com/en/article/xgd7dd/google-maps-live-traf... ("Google Maps Live Traffic Showed the Russian Invasion of Ukraine") (2/24)
https://www.reuters.com/technology/google-temporarily-disabl... ("Google temporarily disables Google Maps live traffic data in Ukraine") (2/27)
Some people might wonder why would Russia use public Google maps to tag places for air strikes. I agree that it is trashy but I have some arguments why it can be real:
1) Many talegram chats has sprang up recently asking the pro-Russian population to physically tag places/do some tasks for money
2) Yandex is not accessible from ukrainian Internet
3) It might be pro Russian volunteers hoping that it will help the Russian army
4) I believe that despite being one of the most powerful army on planet Earth they are quite dumb and inefficient(so does other countries' bureaucratic military, perhaps in a lesser extent). Due to their incompetency they may do strange stuff but it can still harm us and the world
I wonder if it's a violation of Google's ToS to use their services to commit war crimes?
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https://support.google.com/maps/thread/152809911/terrorists-...
https://old.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/t4copf/they_are_us...
Someone with a line to the Maps team should contact them immediately
https://support.google.com/maps/thread/152809911/terrorists-...
https://old.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/t4copf/they_are_us...
Someone with a line to the Maps team should contact them immediately
I have reports of new pins from (already-shellshocked) locals, and would like to get them removed ASAP.
Is there a contact at google (twitter handles are great) that these suspected locations can be sent to? They cannot be posted publically for obvious reasons.
I have sent a legal request to Google which may be read, but not in time, as Kharkiv is actively being bombarded.
Email in profile, or give instructions below. Thank you.
Is there a contact at google (twitter handles are great) that these suspected locations can be sent to? They cannot be posted publically for obvious reasons.
I have sent a legal request to Google which may be read, but not in time, as Kharkiv is actively being bombarded.
Email in profile, or give instructions below. Thank you.
Reminds me that "military grade x.y.z" is usually vastly inferior to what you get from tech company for the general public.
Post is gone now, but that sounds pretty far fetched. What was the evidence?
In another forum I've seen pictures of so-called Russian 'saboteurs' and their belongings. Lots of SIM cards and ways to get connected. If Google record the IP address, or even the MAC address, of whomever adds to Maps then perhaps they can share that with ISPs so these devices can be monitored or blacklisted.
https://support.google.com/maps/thread/152809911/terrorists-...
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True or not, it would be sane to send a heads up to other map services (OSM, Apple, etc) so they can be alerted before any misuse.
FYI these reports are being escalated very quickly.
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I would probably go back further than 23rd if this is in anyway real.
I suspect that this is an attempt to hide attacks on civilians and/or other protected classes under the Geneva conventions. If you get a attack/bomb/missile destruction photo from a location that's GPS tagged in the photo, a media person verifying the site on Google Maps will get the latest description. If that's a fake farm photo, what would they believe? The photo or GMaps? Unless you have your own boots on the ground, I'd guess GMaps.
Hmm... It could be someone warning citizens, but if it's actually used in targeting then maybe place a few on the large convoy?
Wait, they are using Google Maps not just as an alternative to state-maintaned maps, they use it for communication?
Posted on the official channel of vice PM of Ukraine (the same person who talked with Musk about Starlink), likely related:
>disabled certain Google Maps features in Ukraine to ensure safety of our citizens
https://t.me/zedigital/1202
>disabled certain Google Maps features in Ukraine to ensure safety of our citizens
https://t.me/zedigital/1202
Is there a chance this is actually Ukrainian volunteers adding these as part of defence setups?
The roof/walls of some buildings in Ukraine have been getting marked with what looks like targeting/geobinding signs - haircross of 3-6ft. I wonder how it correlates with those new Google places.
Why not tag everything programmatically, to throw them off? Just curious..
Note that multiple border crossing points including the ones in Poland shows red or orange in the traffic data. I assume that many people are still trying to reach the neighbouring countries.
Doesn't Russia have their own maps service offered by Yandex?
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Google has shown a lot of initiative already in disabling Maps features to prevent their abuse. [1] I have no doubt that the Maps team and its execs will respond to this quickly.
[1] https://www.theverge.com/2022/2/28/22954426/google-disables-...
[1] https://www.theverge.com/2022/2/28/22954426/google-disables-...