Pulitzer winning reporter faces jail for protecting funding scandal sources(nbcnews.com)
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Pulitzer winning reporter faces jail for protecting funding scandal sources
https://www.nbcnews.com/investigations/anna-wolfe-pulitzer-mississippi-welfare-scandal-phil-bryant-rcna159936
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The lawsuit is demanding to see the sources to prove that the former governor did not embezzle as was claimed by the CEO.
The sources are held by the journalists.
The journalists will face prison if they do not comply with the court order to turn over their sources.
The sources are held by the journalists.
The journalists will face prison if they do not comply with the court order to turn over their sources.
And the journalists know if they reveal their sources that the people behind them will subsequently have their lives destroyed by the powerful.
But why sue the journalists and not the CEO only? She made the remarks. Why are other journalists who didn't make the remarks afraid of going to jail: "If one of us goes to jail, we will be the first person to go to jail in the Mississippi welfare scandal"?
I guess the key here is the he wants to show that it was done with malice. It seems, unlike in other countries/jurisdictions, a defamation lawsuit requires proving malice. So one way to prove it would be to show that whatever sources the journalists had definitely did not indicate the governor was embezzling, but the CEO claimed he did. Therefore, she did it with malice? It's quite complicated to follow.
So what gives, does the governor feel pretty confident he is innocent and sources won't show anything? What if he sources reveal he did embezzle? Or, does he know the source materials already, and what's in them, if someone leaked them to him or his lawyers, and now he wants to open them up in a legal way to be used as evidence. Can't say, "we found outside the court house, they feel of the truck".
I guess the key here is the he wants to show that it was done with malice. It seems, unlike in other countries/jurisdictions, a defamation lawsuit requires proving malice. So one way to prove it would be to show that whatever sources the journalists had definitely did not indicate the governor was embezzling, but the CEO claimed he did. Therefore, she did it with malice? It's quite complicated to follow.
So what gives, does the governor feel pretty confident he is innocent and sources won't show anything? What if he sources reveal he did embezzle? Or, does he know the source materials already, and what's in them, if someone leaked them to him or his lawyers, and now he wants to open them up in a legal way to be used as evidence. Can't say, "we found outside the court house, they feel of the truck".
>But why sue the journalists
They are not being sued as far as I can tell. The lawsuit is against the CEO and her company (Mississippi Today), but the court has ordered the sources to be turned over and that is held by the journalists who face prison if they do not comply with the court.
>So one way to prove it would be to show that whatever sources the journalists had definitely did not indicate the governor was embezzling, but the CEO claimed he did. Therefore, she did it with malice? It's quite complicated to follow.
Knowingly lying can arguably be an act of malice, especially if your job description is about reporting the facts. Thus the demand to see the sources, which given the argument isn't entirely unreasonable but obviously conflicts with keeping sources in confidence.
We'll see what the higher courts say, I guess.
They are not being sued as far as I can tell. The lawsuit is against the CEO and her company (Mississippi Today), but the court has ordered the sources to be turned over and that is held by the journalists who face prison if they do not comply with the court.
>So one way to prove it would be to show that whatever sources the journalists had definitely did not indicate the governor was embezzling, but the CEO claimed he did. Therefore, she did it with malice? It's quite complicated to follow.
Knowingly lying can arguably be an act of malice, especially if your job description is about reporting the facts. Thus the demand to see the sources, which given the argument isn't entirely unreasonable but obviously conflicts with keeping sources in confidence.
We'll see what the higher courts say, I guess.
> They are not being sued as far as I can tell.
They are, in fact, being sued.
The reporter named in the article is Anna Wolfe, the editor is Adam Ganucheau, the CEO is Mary Margaret White; the named defendants in Bryant's lawsuit [0] are Deep South Today d/b/a Mississippi Today, Mary Margaret White, Adam Ganucheau & Anna Wolfe.
[0] PDF: https://www.mississippifreepress.org/wp-content/uploads/2024...
They are, in fact, being sued.
The reporter named in the article is Anna Wolfe, the editor is Adam Ganucheau, the CEO is Mary Margaret White; the named defendants in Bryant's lawsuit [0] are Deep South Today d/b/a Mississippi Today, Mary Margaret White, Adam Ganucheau & Anna Wolfe.
[0] PDF: https://www.mississippifreepress.org/wp-content/uploads/2024...
Thanks for the reference. That looks like a civil complaint. I doubt they'll realistically face prison for it as they implied. But was probably said to make a point.
Noticed they demanded a jury trial. I guess his lawyer feels pretty confident the guy is either innocent (seems doubtful) or that they'll be able to get a jury to go along ideological party lines.
Noticed they demanded a jury trial. I guess his lawyer feels pretty confident the guy is either innocent (seems doubtful) or that they'll be able to get a jury to go along ideological party lines.
> They are not being sued as far as I can tell. The lawsuit is against the CEO and her company (Mississippi Today)
Oh I see now. They mentioned "one of us going to prison" but I think that's probably just to make a point.
Oh I see now. They mentioned "one of us going to prison" but I think that's probably just to make a point.
It boggles me how there's no federal shield law to protect journalists from this.
This is on purpose.
I saw the interview with the former official who filed the lawsuit. He claims that he is not doing this in spite, but only because his name been dragged into it. He signed the funding !!!
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To be clear, this suit stems from another journalist (their CEO) stating things that weren't factual and was admitted as such:
>Bryant did not sue after the articles were published in April 2022, and, in fact, the statute of limitations on defamation claims in Mississippi lapses after one year. But in February 2023, the CEO of Mississippi Today, Mary Margaret White, mischaracterized the reporting at a journalism conference in Miami.
>“We’re the newsroom that broke the story about $77 million in welfare funds, intended for the poorest people in the poorest state in the nation, being embezzled by a former governor and his bureaucratic cronies and used on pet projects like a state-of-the-art volleyball stadium at Brett Favre’s alma mater,” she said in videotaped remarks.
>Embezzlement is a crime, and Bryant has never been charged, let alone convicted. There has been no indication he is a target of an ongoing federal investigation into the welfare fraud scandal.
>In May 2023 — a few days after the Pulitzer announcement — Quin sent Mississippi Today a notice of his intention to sue, citing the “embezzlement” remark. A week later, White issued a public apology, saying: “I misspoke at a recent media conference regarding the accusations against former Governor Phil Bryant in the $77 million welfare scandal. He has not been charged with any crime. My remark was inappropriate, and I sincerely apologize.”
For what it's worth, the former governor and his lawyer weren't satisfied with the apology and went forward with their lawsuit.
I see two sides to this. It's critical that journalistic sources be held in confidence, but it's also critical to guarantee presumption of innocence until proven guilty and that journalists don't abuse their position to spread slander.
That their entire investigation is now getting pulled in demonstrates just how stupid that CEO journalist was.
>Bryant did not sue after the articles were published in April 2022, and, in fact, the statute of limitations on defamation claims in Mississippi lapses after one year. But in February 2023, the CEO of Mississippi Today, Mary Margaret White, mischaracterized the reporting at a journalism conference in Miami.
>“We’re the newsroom that broke the story about $77 million in welfare funds, intended for the poorest people in the poorest state in the nation, being embezzled by a former governor and his bureaucratic cronies and used on pet projects like a state-of-the-art volleyball stadium at Brett Favre’s alma mater,” she said in videotaped remarks.
>Embezzlement is a crime, and Bryant has never been charged, let alone convicted. There has been no indication he is a target of an ongoing federal investigation into the welfare fraud scandal.
>In May 2023 — a few days after the Pulitzer announcement — Quin sent Mississippi Today a notice of his intention to sue, citing the “embezzlement” remark. A week later, White issued a public apology, saying: “I misspoke at a recent media conference regarding the accusations against former Governor Phil Bryant in the $77 million welfare scandal. He has not been charged with any crime. My remark was inappropriate, and I sincerely apologize.”
For what it's worth, the former governor and his lawyer weren't satisfied with the apology and went forward with their lawsuit.
I see two sides to this. It's critical that journalistic sources be held in confidence, but it's also critical to guarantee presumption of innocence until proven guilty and that journalists don't abuse their position to spread slander.
That their entire investigation is now getting pulled in demonstrates just how stupid that CEO journalist was.
It's important to note that the Pulitzer winning journalist isn't being accused of defamation here.
She's facing jail time because the defamation case resulted in a court order to see information about her confidential sources (presumably via the discovery process). Reputable journalists don't hand over details about their confidential sources.
She's facing jail time because the defamation case resulted in a court order to see information about her confidential sources (presumably via the discovery process). Reputable journalists don't hand over details about their confidential sources.
former Governor Phil Bryant signed docs to allocate those funds. Plain and simple. He claims ignorance. It wasn't a pocket change, he should have been aware of what he was signing and where those funds came from. It is plain corruption and he is trying to get back at the journalists for exposing his corruption.
"Embezzlement is a crime, and Bryant has never been charged, let alone convicted. There has been no indication he is a target of an ongoing federal investigation into the welfare fraud scandal."
I see no need for an apology and no merit for any lawsuit. Each part of those sentences is a factual statement. No where is it said, "Then Governor Phil Bryant is an embezzler." Bryant is making his own assumptions there, because he knows what he did.
Wikipedia says, "The previous director of Mississippi's welfare agency, John Davis, who admitted to being involved and is currently working with authorities, was appointed by Phil Bryant. An attorney said, “John Davis knows of the extent of personal involvement of former Governor Bryant and Governor (Tate) Reeves and the massive waste of taxpayer money,” but said that Davis was under direction from the FBI to remain silent." (my emphasis)
Sounds like someone at the FBI is working the case. Could be some FPMITA prison in Bryant's future.
I see no need for an apology and no merit for any lawsuit. Each part of those sentences is a factual statement. No where is it said, "Then Governor Phil Bryant is an embezzler." Bryant is making his own assumptions there, because he knows what he did.
Wikipedia says, "The previous director of Mississippi's welfare agency, John Davis, who admitted to being involved and is currently working with authorities, was appointed by Phil Bryant. An attorney said, “John Davis knows of the extent of personal involvement of former Governor Bryant and Governor (Tate) Reeves and the massive waste of taxpayer money,” but said that Davis was under direction from the FBI to remain silent." (my emphasis)
Sounds like someone at the FBI is working the case. Could be some FPMITA prison in Bryant's future.
No, here's what the CEO said again:
>“We’re the newsroom that broke the story about $77 million in welfare funds, intended for the poorest people in the poorest state in the nation, being embezzled by a former governor and his bureaucratic cronies and used on pet projects like a state-of-the-art volleyball stadium at Brett Favre’s alma mater,"
Emphasis mine.
That bit of alleged defamation is what the former governor is suing the CEO and her company for, and the court ordered the journalists to turn over sources as part of the trial with penalty of imprisonment if they do not comply.
>“We’re the newsroom that broke the story about $77 million in welfare funds, intended for the poorest people in the poorest state in the nation, being embezzled by a former governor and his bureaucratic cronies and used on pet projects like a state-of-the-art volleyball stadium at Brett Favre’s alma mater,"
Emphasis mine.
That bit of alleged defamation is what the former governor is suing the CEO and her company for, and the court ordered the journalists to turn over sources as part of the trial with penalty of imprisonment if they do not comply.
If only she had said "being embezzled by a former governor['s] bureaucratic cronies".
I’m sure this will restore his good name.
These sorts of actions are usually of the "pour encourager les autres" variety.
As his attorney said in the article "I just want the money."
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So former Governor Phil Bryant is claiming that the claim by the CEO of the paper that he embezzled (the CEO has since apologized for the error) was due to malice. What I fail to understand though is how the identity of the sources demonstrates said malice. Moreover, there's a lot more here:
> [Nancy] New said that at a 2019 Christmas party, Bryant talked about Jake Vanlandingham, founder of the Florida-based biotech company Prevacus. “Governor Bryant got excited and told me that Jake had offered him ‘half the company,’ which I understood to mean a substantial amount of stock, but the Governor said he was going to have to wait until he was out of office to accept,” New wrote.
If you might recall, Brett Favre was paid $1M in speaking fees but never actually did any speeches and he advocated for government funds to be used to build a volleyball stadium at USM.
I really think the simplest defense here will be to just show that Bryant was complicit in the embezzlement just because it seems more likely than not:
> Bryant was governor from 2013 to 2020 and chose John Davis as director of the state Department of Human Services. Davis pleaded guilty in September 2022 to state and federal charges in a conspiracy to misspend tens of millions of dollars that were intended to help needy families in one of the poorest states in the U.S.
> Favre had publicly said he supported the Prevacus effort to develop a concussion drug, and the state's civil lawsuit says Favre invested more than $250,000 in the Florida-based company.
> “After the meeting, I asked John why he had committed so much funding so quickly,” New said in the court filing. “John said he had spoken with Governor Bryant and the Governor wanted Prevacus funded. John said the Governor was ‘all about this happening.’”
Now to be clear I'm not saying the governor is guilty of embezzlement. I'm just saying that it seems like everyone that he surrounded himself with seems to have been caught doing shady shit stealing from welfare funds & denying 90% of applicants to these programs. Since the former Governor makes Christianity a core part of his identity, might I remind him 1st Corinthians 15:33 "Bad company ruins good morals". And if I were the prosecutors, I'd make real sure there's no case at all against the governor cause it seems like there's some smoke there that can be fanned into a fire.
[1] https://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/2024/02/29/mississi...
> [Nancy] New said that at a 2019 Christmas party, Bryant talked about Jake Vanlandingham, founder of the Florida-based biotech company Prevacus. “Governor Bryant got excited and told me that Jake had offered him ‘half the company,’ which I understood to mean a substantial amount of stock, but the Governor said he was going to have to wait until he was out of office to accept,” New wrote.
If you might recall, Brett Favre was paid $1M in speaking fees but never actually did any speeches and he advocated for government funds to be used to build a volleyball stadium at USM.
I really think the simplest defense here will be to just show that Bryant was complicit in the embezzlement just because it seems more likely than not:
> Bryant was governor from 2013 to 2020 and chose John Davis as director of the state Department of Human Services. Davis pleaded guilty in September 2022 to state and federal charges in a conspiracy to misspend tens of millions of dollars that were intended to help needy families in one of the poorest states in the U.S.
> Favre had publicly said he supported the Prevacus effort to develop a concussion drug, and the state's civil lawsuit says Favre invested more than $250,000 in the Florida-based company.
> “After the meeting, I asked John why he had committed so much funding so quickly,” New said in the court filing. “John said he had spoken with Governor Bryant and the Governor wanted Prevacus funded. John said the Governor was ‘all about this happening.’”
Now to be clear I'm not saying the governor is guilty of embezzlement. I'm just saying that it seems like everyone that he surrounded himself with seems to have been caught doing shady shit stealing from welfare funds & denying 90% of applicants to these programs. Since the former Governor makes Christianity a core part of his identity, might I remind him 1st Corinthians 15:33 "Bad company ruins good morals". And if I were the prosecutors, I'd make real sure there's no case at all against the governor cause it seems like there's some smoke there that can be fanned into a fire.
[1] https://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/2024/02/29/mississi...
Actual malice is a legal standard for what you knew when you made the statement, doesn't have anything to do with how you feel.
That doesn’t explain how the sources and background materials from the reporting would be relevant. It just seems like a background way to intimidate those who came forward and to be able to run a smear campaign against them.
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> In May 2023 — a few days after the Pulitzer announcement — Quin sent Mississippi Today a notice of his intention to sue, citing the “embezzlement” remark.
Why are the journalists in trouble if the lawsuit is about something the CEO said?