Yahoo to Launch "Chrome Killer" Tonight(launch.co)
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Yahoo to Launch "Chrome Killer" Tonight
http://www.launch.co/blog/yahoo-to-launch-chrome-killer-tonight.html
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It's not a "Killer". The title is the worst kind of link bait. It doesn't replace Chrome in any shape or form. There's nothing Yahoo! has said to justify this title. Horrid submission to HN.
Yahoo is a dying company, quickly converting itself into a patent troll, and suing competitors in a desperate attempt to stay relevant long after they are. This is a dying company. I have ZERO respect for any employee of a company like this.
The executives of this company that decided to become a patent troll should go hang themselves, or at least quit their jobs and save some semblance of self-respect.
The executives of this company that decided to become a patent troll should go hang themselves, or at least quit their jobs and save some semblance of self-respect.
>>This is a dying company. I have ZERO respect for any employee of a company like this.
And I would have ZERO respect for any employee who runs from a company just because its dying. Those are the last kind people I would hire, because those are the classic cases of what Zed Shaw describes are the kind of people who work for successful companies, and not to work to make the company successful.
Rats are first ones to run from a sinking ship. And employees who generally leave first during the times of crisis are generally people who have no qualities to be war time leaders, who can steer and motivate their teams in difficult times. I would never trust such people with any kind of work that is important.
When I see such people, I often wonder what are they actually worth? If its for money and nothing else, what is the point in really hiring such people for important work? How can they even be trusted when to handle responsibilities in times of crisis, which forces them to quit? Its easy to continue work when things are normal in a successful flow. But its take a lot more heart and character to last through tough and difficult times.
When I see people who want to join Google, or Facebook or <anything> just because its successful, and somebody else has already done the base work to make the company successful. I see people who just like to be part of somebody else's success without contributing nothing much to it.
And I would have ZERO respect for any employee who runs from a company just because its dying. Those are the last kind people I would hire, because those are the classic cases of what Zed Shaw describes are the kind of people who work for successful companies, and not to work to make the company successful.
Rats are first ones to run from a sinking ship. And employees who generally leave first during the times of crisis are generally people who have no qualities to be war time leaders, who can steer and motivate their teams in difficult times. I would never trust such people with any kind of work that is important.
When I see such people, I often wonder what are they actually worth? If its for money and nothing else, what is the point in really hiring such people for important work? How can they even be trusted when to handle responsibilities in times of crisis, which forces them to quit? Its easy to continue work when things are normal in a successful flow. But its take a lot more heart and character to last through tough and difficult times.
When I see people who want to join Google, or Facebook or <anything> just because its successful, and somebody else has already done the base work to make the company successful. I see people who just like to be part of somebody else's success without contributing nothing much to it.
The "move seamlessly across devices" feature has me wanting to try it at least. If it was possible to start typing a HN post on your phone then finish on your laptop, for example, that would be really cool.
But a chrome killer? I doubt it. To kill chrome you'd need a far more compelling use case.
To me the biggest problem on the web right now is there's too much to read. In fact there's an Amazon killer here too. It's never been so easy to own a lot of books but it's getting harder and harder to read them.
But a chrome killer? I doubt it. To kill chrome you'd need a far more compelling use case.
To me the biggest problem on the web right now is there's too much to read. In fact there's an Amazon killer here too. It's never been so easy to own a lot of books but it's getting harder and harder to read them.
With ebook readers on your computer, tablet, phone, and dedicated (and cheap) ereaders I don't see how anyone could say that books are getting harder to read. It may be so easy to buy them that we are developing backlogs, but that is a problem of self control.
There is a ton to read on the web right now. The current solution is to use a service like Instapaper, Readability, or Pocket that saves articles and renders them in a pleasurable format to read later. If you want that built into the browser, look no further than Safari which introduced "Reading List" in version 5.0 (the new version in Mountain Lion has offline reading as well). Opera has also announced they will have a feature like this in their next major release.
There's always room for disruption. Firefox used customizability and standards compliance to disrupt IE's market. A few short years later Chrome used speed to disrupt IE and Firefox's market to become the most used browser in he world. Who will be next? I don't know, but I'm skeptical that Yahoo is the company who will do it.
There is a ton to read on the web right now. The current solution is to use a service like Instapaper, Readability, or Pocket that saves articles and renders them in a pleasurable format to read later. If you want that built into the browser, look no further than Safari which introduced "Reading List" in version 5.0 (the new version in Mountain Lion has offline reading as well). Opera has also announced they will have a feature like this in their next major release.
There's always room for disruption. Firefox used customizability and standards compliance to disrupt IE's market. A few short years later Chrome used speed to disrupt IE and Firefox's market to become the most used browser in he world. Who will be next? I don't know, but I'm skeptical that Yahoo is the company who will do it.
> With ebook readers on your computer, tablet, phone, and dedicated (and cheap) ereaders I don't see how anyone could say that books are getting harder to read.
I expressed myself badly. The act of reading has never been so easy I agree.
What I meant was when was the last time you finished a book? Or just got something meaningful out of a book? How about when you bought a book and never even started it?
The problem being there's an oversupply of excellent books all just a download away but never enough time to read them.
This is a problem we should be solving.
I expressed myself badly. The act of reading has never been so easy I agree.
What I meant was when was the last time you finished a book? Or just got something meaningful out of a book? How about when you bought a book and never even started it?
The problem being there's an oversupply of excellent books all just a download away but never enough time to read them.
This is a problem we should be solving.
Make time.
I finish a few books per month. My parents manage to read a couple books per week (and managed it when I was a good deal younger and they were both working 40+ hour weeks).
Read on the bus. Read on the can. Read before going to bed. There's plenty of time for reading, even if you've got an otherwise busy and active life.
I finish a few books per month. My parents manage to read a couple books per week (and managed it when I was a good deal younger and they were both working 40+ hour weeks).
Read on the bus. Read on the can. Read before going to bed. There's plenty of time for reading, even if you've got an otherwise busy and active life.
The browser interface is ripe for disruption (the whole UI space is, really), but whether yahoo will do it remains to be seen. Personally I am pretty doubtful, although they do have the resources.
Interesting, trying to download it, results in it trying to load up a Google Chrome extension...
Edit: Looks like it exists as a plugin for Firefox and Chrome, based on my testing with Opera...
Edit2:
Chrome Extension
Firefox Extension
Safari Extension
Edit: Looks like it exists as a plugin for Firefox and Chrome, based on my testing with Opera...
Edit2:
Chrome Extension
Firefox Extension
Safari Extension
The video on axis.yahoo.com says it's a plugin for "your favourite browser" and shows the icons for Chrome, IE, FF, and Safari. So, it doesn't seem to be a separate browser.
Also, the Axis logo looks nearly identical to Adobe's, apart from the colour.
Also, the Axis logo looks nearly identical to Adobe's, apart from the colour.
You have to remember that when chrome was released it was clearly an attempt at a firefox killer, but obviously it hasn't killed firefox, and google never realistically expected it to do so. Google chrome has done very well at sequestering market share from firefox and internet explorer, but chrome is a google product, and lives up to the software standards that we've come to expect from them. I expect this effort from yahoo to be a token addition to an already crowded market.
> You have to remember that when chrome was released it was clearly an attempt at a firefox killer
Really? I thought it was a (successful) attempt at building a good browser that addressed the needs of a wide variety of users. I didn't realize it was out to kill anything. That just seems barbaric.
Really? I thought it was a (successful) attempt at building a good browser that addressed the needs of a wide variety of users. I didn't realize it was out to kill anything. That just seems barbaric.
in 2006 i tried to convince Jerry that Yahoo needed to ship a browser.
it only took six years for it to sink in, i guess.
it only took six years for it to sink in, i guess.
Still hasn't. It's a horrid browser add on. I dare you to install it and look at the list of popular searches without retching.
Nice, fast, mobile aware, and social... fantastic.
<!DOCTYPE HTML>
<html dir="ltr" lang="en-US">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" />
<meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1, maximum-scale=1">
<meta property="og:title" content="Yahoo! Axis" />
<meta property="og:type" content="product" />
<meta property="og:url" content="http://axis.yahoo.com" />
<meta property="og:image" content="http://l.yimg.com/mk/micro/img/axis-icon64.png" />
<meta property="og:site_name" content="Yahoo! Axis" />
<meta property="fb:admins" content="100000203733930" />
<title>Yahoo! Axis</title>
<body></body>
</html>the admin maps to http://www.facebook.com/gaurav.malhotra.75
Here is a better article detailing what Yahoo Axis is.
http://techland.time.com/2012/05/23/yahoos-axis-visual-searc...
http://techland.time.com/2012/05/23/yahoos-axis-visual-searc...
"Yahoo says ... is contemplating putting Axis on other mobile platforms such as Android."?!
I can understand not supporting Linux at launch (but not forever). I can't understand only targeting iOS and then publicly saying you're not even planning on doing Android. Just that you're "contemplating" it.
I can understand not supporting Linux at launch (but not forever). I can't understand only targeting iOS and then publicly saying you're not even planning on doing Android. Just that you're "contemplating" it.
One year old (May 23, 2011) video: http://screen.yahoo.com/introducing-axis-from-yahoo-for-your...
Got to love those over-the-top effects. Glass-breaking, plants bursting out of the ground, etc.
Don't really see Yahoo! being able to execute on this sort of thing though. I haven't seen anything really awesome from them for years.
Don't really see Yahoo! being able to execute on this sort of thing though. I haven't seen anything really awesome from them for years.
They've since taken the video down.
Anyone else notice that at 0:12 in the video it appears that "how to make chloroform" is in the top few results when typing "how"?
http://imgur.com/CVtff
http://imgur.com/CVtff
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Chrome killer sounds, well, rather ambitious. IE killer was ambitious enough back in the day, and that browser had serious flaws.
http://axis.yahoo.com/ doesn't work for me. Is anyone else having issues?
One of the comments noted the video was dated a year ago. Could be a mistake on the video, could be that this project never made it out of the silo last year and was just discovered. Or it could be that it won't be live until tomorrow.
Like others I found the headline amusing because it doesn't seem like a credible strategy to 'attack' Google by replacing their browser.
Like others I found the headline amusing because it doesn't seem like a credible strategy to 'attack' Google by replacing their browser.
Link doesnt work. To build something that is called "chrome killer" you need to first put up a functioning website in place guys. Someone needs to be fired.
Per the post, it won't be live til after 9pm tonight.
I too tried the link and it didn't work.
Are you using the Yahoo! Browser?
it's working, the site, albeit blank, has code FB OG meta.
Yahoo Axis shows up in iTunes: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/yahoo!-axis-a-search-browser/...
I have no iDevices so no idea what it does.
I have no iDevices so no idea what it does.
* Checks calendar * hang on, it's not April 1st! I do have to say, after having a brief romance with Yahoo! in my teens, I'm looking forward to them doing something like this. As a web developer, if this becomes popular, and causes problems for me, there will be hell to pay.
Come to think of it, I'll probably just ignore it if it causes me any issues.
You've been warned Yahoo!
Come to think of it, I'll probably just ignore it if it causes me any issues.
You've been warned Yahoo!
why thought? They just don't get it, why are they doing these things?
Yahoo has no mission, they have crazy micro departments and no clear focus for picking winners / goals.
Yahoo has no mission, they have crazy micro departments and no clear focus for picking winners / goals.
You could very easily say the same thing about Google. People do, in fact.
Not that I expect this to in any way be good.
Not that I expect this to in any way be good.
Yahoo is a well managed company on the forward curve of web technology and I look forward to something that will kill the bloated and poorly backed software that is Google Chrome.
Poe's Law at work here.
Naw that's just classic sarcasm.
Given the guy's karma, I don't know...
I would love to have his karma. I screwed up with my first post and despite my best efforts I haven't moved up. Maybe if I show kindness to the new yahoo browser my karma will improve?
Thank you. I've learned of something I didn't know.
"well managed company"
Nah, that was a giveaway it was irony wasn't it?
Nah, that was a giveaway it was irony wasn't it?
Wait, where in the press release they even mention chrome???
It's launch.co dumb headline.
It's launch.co dumb headline.
And unfortunately that puts any conversation about it in a pretty moronic place. I'm skeptical, but more fluid and seamless search-browsing and device-to-device experiences could have at least inspired some decent conversations. Now we get "who is yahoo kidding?"
"Chrome Killer" from Yahoo... That's cute.
Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha! Yahoo is going to dethrone the world's newly most popular browser.
By putting in what are effectively iGoogle, Chrome Sync and Google Instant/Suggest in a new Webkit fork?
Good luck with that project. Never mind the awful name. I think a bigger market share would prefer Yahoo! Allies over Yahoo! Axis.
And the logo looks like something Saul Bass would have done for an agricultural concern in 1978.
Edit: It's a browser extension. Well, absolutely no one will use it especially now.
By putting in what are effectively iGoogle, Chrome Sync and Google Instant/Suggest in a new Webkit fork?
Good luck with that project. Never mind the awful name. I think a bigger market share would prefer Yahoo! Allies over Yahoo! Axis.
And the logo looks like something Saul Bass would have done for an agricultural concern in 1978.
Edit: It's a browser extension. Well, absolutely no one will use it especially now.
Shape of the logo reminds me of Adobe.
The Fb:admin is http://graph.facebook.com/100000203733930 and https://www.facebook.com/gaurav.malhotra.75 anyone know who is he?
Brought to you by a patent troll that thinks it invented the concept of a news feed, and is suing every web publisher that displays new information in a list.
Who can possibly take this company seriously anymore?
Who can possibly take this company seriously anymore?
yeah i feel like they dropped the ball on not making this just an extension for every other browser, and possibly a standalone for those looking to jump ship from their current browser. increase market share, decrease fragmentation. win/win...
Um, it is an extension for every browser.
On your computer, axis is a plugin that easily works with
your favorite browser. As you can see, Axis is at the
bottom of your screen and stays with you as you browse the
web.
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