> Those libraries are being used in Chromium, and thus need to be maintained for use in Chromium.
And they certainly are... by the originators. The Chromium team maintains a few patches here and there, which is why they're in the repo to begin with friend.
> It...did?
No, I said it didn't. All of the things you listed are not originated by the Chromium team. Also, Google can't just take them away so anyone who wants to use them can. Nobody has to re-invent the entire wheel here.
> Now we're speculating.
We're using logic. Did you see the new Brave search engine? You think they can't build a store to host extensions? That's rich.
I guess one man's overly dramatic is another man's laughter at the absurd. Or, perhaps you missed the "laughing so hard I'm crying" emoji?
Anyway - this is exactly what Apple wanted. They knew it would make people talk. They also knew that some faction of Apple worshipers would come along to downplay any and all issues with it.
Apple can do what they want and the zealots can think what they want, but we can enjoy laughing at them when they fall flat on their face too right?
It's pretty simple - we've been using rectangular screens since forever. With rectangular screens there are no compromises within our software and there are no compromises in our field of vision.
Obviously, the notch stands out. It juts into the rectangle, making it no longer a rectangle. The OS now must make all sorts of compromises and implement extra functionality and options (like compatibility mode). And they aren't working perfectly [0] (LOL - And for what? A thinner fucking bezel? There's plenty of bezel beneath the dock - they should have shifted everything down.) The users must make compromises as the size of usable screen area actually changes depending on what mode the application is in. With the notch, if you use any apps that have a long list of menus your eyeballs must now be trained to skip over the notch as you scan the list of top menu items. The whole thing is a byzantine nightmare.
Most people get this immediately and they don't like it. In all the comments on all the articles and forums that I've read - the vast majority of people don't like the notch on this Macbook and they don't like it on the iPhone either. However, they do put up with it and learn to ignore it given that they have no choice if they want to stay in the Apple ecosystem that they're probably locked into anyway.
Lucky for me - I'm somewhat of a minimalist on my smartphone. I can still buy a new iPhone without the notch (AND with a home button which is way better for quickly switching apps) because I don't need the greatest camera. For my computers, I'm not locked into any one platform but a Mac would certainly be my last choice because of this kind of garbage.
[0] "Apple’s new MacBook Pro notch is misbehaving. Early adopters have discovered inconsistencies in how Apple handles the notch across macOS and in individual apps, resulting in unexpected behavior where status bar items can get hidden under the notch." - https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/27/22748371/apple-macbook-p...
People are complaining because screens have been fucking rectangular since forever! And this change forces klunky software compromises for no good reason.
If they made a triangle of extra screen area jut out on the right, you'd get extra screen space too. I bet people would still defend it not because "it's extra screen" but in reality because it came from Apple.
The fact that people are so willfully ignorant of that is amazing to me. The Apple-think bubble is stronger than I thought.
> ...any machines which come close to the M1 for software dev?
If you can stand using macOS, that is.
Personally, I'll continue using Linux because that's where all my software gets deployed to and macOS simply can't approach the value of that or the value of open source. On a Mac, you'll be fighting the OS the whole time.
If speed was all that mattered, Mac users would have left Apple a long time ago because this is the first time they're faster than a PC.
It limits how many menus your apps can have or makes them draw around it. If you enable compatibility mode you'll be back to an even fatter bezel which looks like dog shit.
It's just a laptop in the same old rectangular shape, in the same old colors that is actually just catching up and there's nothing at all special about this one… Try to catch some breath.
Nobody anywhere likes the notch either. Triumph? No.
Did you not realize that the repo contains a copy of every third party lib they use? It didn't go from 5 to 35 LoC in 5 years buddy xD.
Imagine also thinking that Brave will go through the trouble of leaving the webRequest API in place and then sit on their hands and not finish the other side of that equation. Too funny, sonny!
> Chromium is more like ~35 million lines of code.
Incorrect. It's ~5 million [0]
> And Brave is implementing Manifest V3.
Incomplete. Brave already announced that they're leaving the webRequest API intact. [1]
> You better hope Google doesn't block submissions...
Have ya heard of a thing called installing software? You can easily install extensions without clinging to a walled garden. Brave makes this easier than Chrome.
Nothing said here has proved that Google has complete control over anything. Anyway enjoy using Firefox I guess? And you'd better hope that other web devs start to test with Firefox because most of them, including me, won't bother for the piddly amount of market share they still have.
If you really believe that Mozilla is out there protecting anything and not just collecting a paycheck - I've got a bridge to sell you.
Chrome does everything I want right now. The minute it doesn't I'll use Brave.
Oh and before you say something like "Google has complete control over every Chromium fork" stop right there because you're wrong. Brave is already not implementing Manifest v3. Both Edge and Brave replaced all dependence on Google services. Chrome is also only ~5 million lines of code. It's not impossible to maintain.
Oh, gee well I thought we were on a developer/techie forum.
McDonald's is also one of the most popular restaurants. I eat there once in a while. I still run Windows boxes to play games too.
And it's more like ~30% for Windows when you measure against all operating systems, not just the desktop ones. [0] Android is the top dog since at least October 2020 when it went to over ~40%.
When Vista came out, people were switching to Linux.
When 8.x came out, people were switching to Linux.
When 10 came out, people were switching to Linux.
Now Windows 11 came out, naturally people are still switching to Linux.
Guess what? People are going to continue switching platforms and talking about it.
Oh and 25% of developers are generally running Linux, 25-30% are on a Mac and about 40-45% are on Windows...and Windows usage is trending downwards year after year. [0]
It's easy to over simplify things to the point of absurdity.
This is like saying that when you read "because science tells us" that you translate it to "because I believe anything that scientists say" as that is what is effectively happening.
Market power makes it an antitrust situation and since you can't run a profitable app business without going through Apple, that certainly makes this a hostage scenario.
We haven't seen the last antitrust case against them. I'm certainly looking forward to them getting knocked down a few pegs. Only a stool pigeon would defend their behavior.
Ummm, yes it does.
> Those libraries are being used in Chromium, and thus need to be maintained for use in Chromium.
And they certainly are... by the originators. The Chromium team maintains a few patches here and there, which is why they're in the repo to begin with friend.
> It...did?
No, I said it didn't. All of the things you listed are not originated by the Chromium team. Also, Google can't just take them away so anyone who wants to use them can. Nobody has to re-invent the entire wheel here.
> Now we're speculating.
We're using logic. Did you see the new Brave search engine? You think they can't build a store to host extensions? That's rich.