> When you represent the Haiku community badly, that's everyone in the Haiku community's problem.
it's truly, truly a sad mental state to consider anyone has to be representing some certain community. really hope someday you can pull yourself out of that.
> Although my opinion of you as a person is lowering for other reasons.
lower it as much as you want my friend, seriously wouldn't mind if some random stupid asshole insists considering me a stupid asshole.
> If you're an enthusiast of said product, you're doing no one any favors by being hostile.
Ah i see you must be too blind to see others have tried not being hostile, failed and get called out as having "social disability".
> Which does nothing for someone who couldn't get it to run on any of the hardware they tried it on.
Sure:
1. People have to help you here no matter what even if you're being very rude.
2. Certainly "it does not work on my machines" to "it does not work on anything" is a very reasonable stretch!
> I'm just saying, it's sadly very common, does nothing to help anybody, and leaves people with a negative opinion of their community.
if someone could just not leave other people with a negative opinion of him/her/themselves lol
> > keep on venting about social disability bullshit
> I don't even know what this means, but have a suspicion that if I did I would have a low opinion of you as a person for saying it.
seriously? lmfao, that phrase goes for you too, shut up and get your shit together.
as for the "does not help anybody" bit, yeah clearly venting like you do helps a heck lot to everybody.
A lot of people have been frustrated about the thing does not work for them (yes including me myself) but why does OP get the hate he/she/they get? If you can't figure that out yourself, you should probably do something else instead of keep posting here.
So op venting about shit is "maybe exaggerating a bit" and "important frustration" but other people venting is just "defensiveness"? Yeah sure people have to be nice to any one lmao. Ars Technica literally made a long article about how Haiku worked on a cheap-ass laptop, still no, keep on venting about social disability bullshit, and you're here complaining about other people being angry about op being this rude. Truly the moral standard everyone should follow huh.
It's somewhat of a disaster, though: its author probably caught up with the idea of "Language = IDE" & "selling the language for profit" so it's really not that suitable for "real" serious uses.
One rule of thumb that's worth following is to never waste your time reading blogpost like this. If you ever saw a blogpost structured like this, just close the tab.
> You never confirmed if you were raised bilingually. It matters a lot in regards to what I am talking about.
Sorry to break your imagination but I'm not :)
What I'm trying to say is:
1. What is working is not Esperanto per se.
2. Even if you know English and Esperanto, Chinese will (even if it became somewhat easier for you as you might have claimed) still be a heck to learn (e.g. good ol' "counting words"), because they're so different that the even if the "solid foundation" helps it won't help much. That's why I'm bringing up Basque - I myself have trouble learning Basque even if this is the 4th language I have tried to learn.
As for the rational part, I don't know if you know programming but I'm gonna take programming as an example: imagine someone has only learnt C. Now, could claiming "learning Go will help you form a solid foundation about Haskell!" ever be considered rational? I really don't think it should.
It's not Esperanto itself that works, it's the basic linguistics throughout the learning process, i.e. it's the idea of "how languages work (in their own way)" that has the effect. Facts about Esperanto per se do not help. Take a linguistic course and you'll get pretty much the same effect.
Or should I say, imagine Standard Basque: as an independent language, people might have a better time learning Basque because at least they uses latin alphabets.
Oh, and did i mention how closely related Esperanto and English are that your "Chinese -> Esperanto -> English" claim does not suffice at all? :)
Oh, and don't forget you yourself are actually becoming one of the reasons why people "shit on conlang" - close-to-irrational fanboys :)
> Your time spent learning Esperanto may have actually created a solid foundation to learning Mandarin, if that's what you desire to learn!
As a native Mandarin speaker who also knows Esperanto I can tell you this is almost 100% (if not exactly 100%) not the case. If learning Esperanto gives you motivation to learn more, maybe; but the two languages are way too different that it wouldn't help much.
The "next generation" is always destroyed for there's something out there just for destroying them. In the modern era it's the Twitter/Instagram/TikTok/you-name-it. Before these it's video games. Before video games it's the TV. before the TV it's rock music. Before rock music it's the pesty comic books. It's not that the concern from the so-called "older generation" is totally irrational, it's the case that we have to come up with new strategies to deal with the bad influence the "new things" have, if they ever have any; it's our very own responsibility.
For people who against this, please take a look at the Death of Zexi Wei[1].
And just for context, Baidu is, currently, the only big player, and in most of the time considered to be the only player in the search engine market of Mainland China.
it's truly, truly a sad mental state to consider anyone has to be representing some certain community. really hope someday you can pull yourself out of that.
> Although my opinion of you as a person is lowering for other reasons.
lower it as much as you want my friend, seriously wouldn't mind if some random stupid asshole insists considering me a stupid asshole.