raeez · HackerTrans

    ' Every sport match': gross exaggeration'

I grew up in Cape Town, South Africa - and throughout my high school sporting career I've played Soccer, Hockey, Cricket and Water Polo (the occasional game of Rugby too) - and yes, at the High School level every match has it's cheerleaders with vuvuzela's.

The sports where they are not used (in South Africa) are Cricket and Tennis - both of which the crowds are not permitted/expected to use any instruments of any kind (this changes for some provincial cricket games)

    'so if you grew up with them, you must be very young.'

I'm 20 - and you're correct on this point. They are a recent addition - but that does nothing to change their prevalence at South African sport events.

As for your cited article, one case of a South African disliking them and arguing againt fails to hold weight against the fans who continue to blow them at every game.

    'Incidentally the (black) man who invented the tin vuvuzela...'

I'm aware of this, and yes - it is unfortunate. If anything, this is further evidence of the profound difference in ignorance & education between the 'two worlds' (living in the first world as they call it - i.e. a major city, and living in the rural/township areas)

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your argument fails to fulfill its original point - i.e. you haven't successfully argued why uniqueness isn't a virtue.

There certainly are cases where other factors are more important, but I for one value uniqueness - especially when it comes to differentiating one's self on a global scale.

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You cannot hear it on TV, but the combination of cheering, taunting and vuvzela's is just magical (from the stands).

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Having been to one game so far, I can confirm that the experience is very different live vs. on-tv.

Then again, I don't find them annoying on tv - so there may be personal bias.

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    'disingenuous to frame the guests as imposing'

this was not my intention. What IS imposing is the guests deciding what the south african hosted world cup's atmosphere/culture should be like. We've had many european-flavoured world cups, but now we have an african one - this is something you may not like or enjoy, but it is what it is.

    'There are genuine knocks on globalization. This is not one of them'

You might frame this case as inconsequential, but on the contrary this is a case of 'global cultural dissent'. Ask any southern african (where african is defined as having grown up on the continent) for his/her opinion and it'll unequivocally be in favour of the vuvuzela - for the rationale I cited (It's always been present / it's distinctly african etc.) I could flesh this argument out, but this would take us severely out of context.

To give context, I'm also of the opinion that the vuvuzela's should be filtered for live broadcast - having been to a game highlights the dramatic difference between their effects on-the-ground and recorded. What I find amusing is the attitude towards the instrument and its use live - especially from those who've never been to a game and witnessed it for themselves.

    'So, I'm calling BS on this logic'

which logic would you be referring to? The argument that this is a case of globalization?

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As a south african having grown up with vuvzela's present at every sport match, the present worldwide 'outcry' is quite entertaining.

Don't you just love the smell of globalization in the morning?

raeez

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Although cryptic, I'd say that gcc's error messages are manageable. I'd hold other factors, such as performance of compiled code - across platforms - to be more important. Alternatively, they could improve on the C++ template error reporting (when they get around to taking C++ support beyond alpha) and that may be enough to sell me.

a quick search yields http://clang.llvm.org/performance.html (favourable, but somewhat skewed results). http://forums.cocoaforge.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=21016 indicates improved compile times, but it's purely anecdotal.

That said, does anyone else have any experience moving a performance-centric or cross platform project to clang?

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