Hi There,
I'm the creator and maintainer of Redline.st
This project has stalled right now because of other commitments.
However, should there be renewed interested I would continue its development.
- James.
Hi there,
I'm the creator of Redline and I very much want to complete it but other work and life items have got in the way.
I hope to return to it just as soon as I can.
- James.
>>there's not enough detail here to make me think he can actually pull off a 6 month development cycle of a new JVM based Smalltalk language
Redline Smalltalk runs today and compiles Smalltalk source into bytecode in Java Class format. The funding is to flesh out the runtime classes and tooling.
>>he's done a very poor job of convincing me to give him money
I appreciate this feedback. Could you elaborate on what sort of things would convince you?
>>I assume this is no longer the case with this project?
Correct. Redline Smalltalk does not require an image file. Your source is kept in files just like you would Python or Ruby source.
- James.
I investigated RTalk with interest and exchanged a few emails with Mark Roos. RTalk is nice but has a different goal.
Redline wants to support you and your existing tool chains, editors and environments that exist around the JVM. We want the best of Smalltalk in that environment (Redline), not a Smalltalk environment (RTalk) on the JVM. A subtle but important difference.
Thank you everyone for contributing these comments.
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If the Smalltalk community wants to remain small, insular and essentially irrelevant .... However, if they want to win people back, it would be a good idea to take stock of what the rest of the world is up to and consider adopting it rather than insulting it.
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Well said. I DON'T want Smalltalk to be irrelevant and breaking out of the image and working with 'your' tool chain and being free is how Redline is taking stock of the rest of the world. You won't find us insulting other languages.
Please give Smalltalk a try, it is a fun language to develop in and the barriers to getting started are being smashed by Redline.
We (http://redline.st) asked them for Smalltalk support, and they provided good assistance in us making our own plugin. Maybe you can try that approach yourself?
I'm thinking that YC don't like incorporated companies where the IP is tied up in the trading company, rather than licensed to the trading company by the IP holding company.
I could be wrong.
The times I have asked I have not received a response or the response I got was generic and dismissive, rather than helpful which is what I was hoping for.
I'm guessing the lack of a response is because:
1. They don't feel they have to justify their decision.
2. They don't want to get into a dispute/nit-pick.
3. They are just bad hirers and don't know how to provide adequate feedback.
4. They are trying to hire someone, not help people they are not hiring.
Conversely, when I have turned down an offer those companies have never asked me why.
Are you solving a very real problem and does the 'Social Platform' help do that? If not then don't bother with the Social Platform, in fact don't bother with the product at all. Solving a real problem is what matters. IMHO.
I have been using Maria on my production App for many months and it has made life easier. It is simple, tight and well written.
I use controllers to implement the strategy to be applied to user events, and this keeps my code focused (SRP/DRY).
I think removing the controller is a bad choice as it would require the view to know too much, and besides having the controller in the mix is made easy by Maria. Any time I have diverged from using the Controller the code started to deteriorate with views having to handle increasing responsibility.
Yes - MVC is part of a larger set of patterns and the thing I like most about Maria is that it focuses on being just MVC. Now I'm free to look for implementations of other patterns as I need them. Hopefully from Peter as well, as he really understands a pattern before he implements it.
It is a good idea, just can't believe some poeple need to be reminded to be decent. Maybe it's just Ruby people. I haven't see this required at other language conferences.