Considering that just the other day leftists (idk if I'm allowed to use that word on here, hi dang) were just attacking and beating Trump supporters in the streets after one of his rallies, this is an apt analogy.
The article posted is literally about ideological differences so.. what?
Also, name calling? What?
I see that the submission was removed or flagged down. I suspect that has more to do with the fact that it is critical of leftism rather than that it has nothing to do with startups or programming. This community would be much better if you just removed most of these non-programming/non-startup related submissions.
I don't know how you can look at media organizations like the New York Times and not see that they clearly have a comically overt agenda in how they talk about him and represent his positions.
> That in fact, blacks are poor because of their culture and not ongoing structural racism? I honestly feel that any worthwhile conservative arguments are being made by center-left thinkers.
What evidence do you have to suggest this is the case and that these conservative hypotheses are fairly investigated?
Sociologists are under a lot of pressure to prove leftist memes and there are many cases of fraud and very poor scientific standards.
Sociology research is effectively useless to me because of leftism. In fact, most political reporting is useless because I have to spend many more cycles tying to figure out if the person isn't just trying to virtue signal instead of be pragmatic and truthful.
> First of all, discriminating against someone because they hold intolerant beliefs is categorically different from discriminating against someone based on their religion
Religion is a set of beliefs... What?
Mainstream Islam literally calls for people to be put to death for drawing pictures of Mohammad or renouncing Islam.
> he needs to provide examples of the useful discourse we are missing out on.
Ben Shapiro is a great example.
> Frankly, the center-left vs hard-left feel like the debates we should be having as a society
No thanks, let's have a discussion about right vs left vs hard left.
Yeah I agree except for the immigration thing. That is an international affair and a matter of sovereignty and has nothing to do with personal freedoms.
Leftism currently is driving the hardest for authoritarianism. I expect we'll see something similar on the right in about a decade though I'm curious to see what it'll look like considering that it seems like religiousness is on the permanent decline in America.
None of these societal things I bring up have anything to do with the actual account of the author's fantastically awful and absurd experience with that CEO.
He clearly intended this to invoke a much wider discussion about race and system racism at the end of his essay. That's what I'm responding to.
What would a thoughtful discussion about this particular story look like?
What you're advocating for here in terms of policing the type of discussion and the types of people that can contribute to the discussion here (based on your assumptions about their personal experiences) is incredibly Orwellian. Obviously this is a private forum and you can do whatever you want but, seriously what you're saying is a bit absurd.
Also FWIW (not much to me, but probably a lot to you) I have personally experienced racism many times in my life.
And yet everyone must live in a society subject to policies that are enacted as response to racism or supposed racism.
To suggest that people should be absolutely silent and not contribute to the discourse that leads to policies that affect their lives is morally abhorrent. Ask them to weight their opinions, sure but telling them to shut up is absurd.
I'm happy to have an honest and open discussion about it but that's not what most people want.
Once you start talking about systemic racism vs the rise of single-motherhood and destruction of the family and glorification of violence within the black communities you're called a racist and the discussion stops there.
There's no room for legitimate discussion and therefore nothing improves and nothing gets better, and in fact things get worse.
> We should talk about this some more. Just be ready — you might find out a lot more than you bargained for.
Obviously Makinde's experience with the CEO is outrageous and abhorrent but race-related issues go very much beyond his personal negative experiences.
This is usually a one-sided discussion and therefore disingenuous to frame this as a discussion.
Any sort of questioning of a PoC talking about their experiences or their opinions on race is social suicide.
The incessant focus on identity politics and oppression olympics is extremely cancerous and antithetical to the fundamental ethos of a civic nation-state such as America.
I very much value being able to without having to constantly watch out for and defend myself against attacks on my person or property.
Europeans don't really care about that, neither do San Franciscans either apparently. That's why crime is absurdly high in SF and they love it. Good for them.