Reddit's IAMA is back as mods state they will no longer work with site admins(reddit.com)
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Reddit's IAMA is back as mods state they will no longer work with site admins
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/3c0hcz/welcome_back/
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I'm curious, for the subset of Redditors who visit HN: What is your ideal outcome for this whole debacle? How would you like Reddit changed?
I'm asking out of genuine curiosity, not fishing for the "omg fire ellen pao" people.
I'm asking out of genuine curiosity, not fishing for the "omg fire ellen pao" people.
1. Better built-in mod tools. Right now, you have to use one or two extensions to effective moderate a subreddit (Reddit Enhancement Suite and "Toolbox").
2. More transparency/communication. The main reason this all started was because the Admins didn't tell the /r/IAmA moderators about an important admin's firing. If they talked to the moderators more, then this whole issue could have been avoided/
3. Listening to user requests. People have been complaining about changes to the search page that Reddit has been testing via /r/Beta, but Reddit implemented it anyway. This post would explain it better than I could: https://www.reddit.com/r/self/comments/3bvkf0/stop_throwing_...
2. More transparency/communication. The main reason this all started was because the Admins didn't tell the /r/IAmA moderators about an important admin's firing. If they talked to the moderators more, then this whole issue could have been avoided/
3. Listening to user requests. People have been complaining about changes to the search page that Reddit has been testing via /r/Beta, but Reddit implemented it anyway. This post would explain it better than I could: https://www.reddit.com/r/self/comments/3bvkf0/stop_throwing_...
Evidently it wasn't Ellen Pao who precipitated this shitstorm. Alexis Ohanian, a founder of Reddit, who should know better, made this change to their staff unannounced, unexplained, and then proceeded to make flip comments. After mods "blacked out" vast tracts of Reddit, he has made terse partial apologies.
However, there are other indications Ellen Pao doesn't know how to handle Reddit employees: https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/3c0idl/i_am_dacvak_fo...
Firing a legitimately ill employee who is about to return to work, and who, to all appearances is eager to work hard as he did before, is a rookie move. On top of that she is alleged to have told this employee he is being dismissed because he is ill. Mishandling a dismissal when you yourself just got out of one of the highest profile employment disputes ever... I'm boggled.
However, there are other indications Ellen Pao doesn't know how to handle Reddit employees: https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/3c0idl/i_am_dacvak_fo...
Firing a legitimately ill employee who is about to return to work, and who, to all appearances is eager to work hard as he did before, is a rookie move. On top of that she is alleged to have told this employee he is being dismissed because he is ill. Mishandling a dismissal when you yourself just got out of one of the highest profile employment disputes ever... I'm boggled.
It's clear that they need to get in front of this now and not be reacting to every fire that breaks out. Alexis and Ellen need to sticky a post to the front page that lays out an apology and a come-to-Jesus for the future of the site.
The gist of this post should be the following:
- Sorry we fucked up by not working through important changes with our valued community of mods and readers.
- We decided to let go of Victoria because we believe that in order to survive and thrive as a for-profit company, we need to take AMAs in a direction that she was against. This includes sponsored AMAs and new formats like video AMAs that take advantage of how people prefer to consume content on mobile devices.
- The rules and banning of certain sub-reddits is in response to irresponsible doxxing behavior and not because we wanted to quelch free speech.
- As reddit grows, in order to pay for the costs to run this business and accomplish the goals our founders and owners agreed upon as part of our last round of funding, we will need to make some hard choices which will involve finding a balance between keeping the reddit spirit alive AND making money. - If you don't think these changes suit your taste, you're welcome to build communities elsewhere.
The gist of this post should be the following:
- Sorry we fucked up by not working through important changes with our valued community of mods and readers.
- We decided to let go of Victoria because we believe that in order to survive and thrive as a for-profit company, we need to take AMAs in a direction that she was against. This includes sponsored AMAs and new formats like video AMAs that take advantage of how people prefer to consume content on mobile devices.
- The rules and banning of certain sub-reddits is in response to irresponsible doxxing behavior and not because we wanted to quelch free speech.
- As reddit grows, in order to pay for the costs to run this business and accomplish the goals our founders and owners agreed upon as part of our last round of funding, we will need to make some hard choices which will involve finding a balance between keeping the reddit spirit alive AND making money. - If you don't think these changes suit your taste, you're welcome to build communities elsewhere.
I wonder if they would build a monetization API for mods, with an app-store-like cut of all money going to Reddit. It seems like they have too much work for a rational person to do for free. It also makes sense for all subs to have the different revenue strategies, since they're all so different.
I'm waiting for a good reddit alternative, been trying voat.co for a couple weeks now, and seems like the closest next best thing. It doesn't feel like reddit's what it used to be, and this might be the last straw for me...
Does anybody else read this as Reddit firing Victoria so they can monetize through kickbacks for AMA requests? I say that because that inability of the mods to verify that that isn't happening seems to be the kicker here.
Definitely looks like they're trying to monitize the AMAs and Victoria was against that
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Maybe the Reddit strategy is to cut traffic to reduce costs. Makes at least as much sense as any other guess
Ellen Pao Fired Reddit Employee Because He had Cancer "...Because of our discussion, you are too sick to properly fulfill your duties as Community Manager"
https://np.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/3c0idl/i_am_dacvak_for...
Come on this is getting ridiculous...