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What are the chances of one succeeding with moonlighting?
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"# No one is going to kick you because your took money from them for your FAILED startup. No one even cares if your startup fails"
Actually, this is not the case. Your family is going to kick you big time if you were away of them for months, for a projects that fails. They are counting on you... (at least if you are married, or you have kids, etc)
Actually, this is not the case. Your family is going to kick you big time if you were away of them for months, for a projects that fails. They are counting on you... (at least if you are married, or you have kids, etc)
> They are counting on you...
More often than not, they're counting on a risk-taker to try and bring financial stability to the household, as well. If you are spending so much time away from your family that it's wrecking your family, there's a problem. But there are plenty of ineffectual workaholics that do the same thing for some overlord's profit.
If you're going to sacrifice something as valuable as time with your family, it better be for a good reason. Chalk up another benefit for making these choices concrete.
More often than not, they're counting on a risk-taker to try and bring financial stability to the household, as well. If you are spending so much time away from your family that it's wrecking your family, there's a problem. But there are plenty of ineffectual workaholics that do the same thing for some overlord's profit.
If you're going to sacrifice something as valuable as time with your family, it better be for a good reason. Chalk up another benefit for making these choices concrete.
Watch out in case you signed a contract that explicitly claims ownership of all your work, regardless of "nights and weekends" spent on your startup.
Also, watch out for non-compete clauses.
Both might be de facto safe if you have a cool employer, but an investor's top interest will be the protection of the IP of the company. Things that look risky are to be avoided, and a violation of a contract is a major risk.
Also, watch out for non-compete clauses.
Both might be de facto safe if you have a cool employer, but an investor's top interest will be the protection of the IP of the company. Things that look risky are to be avoided, and a violation of a contract is a major risk.
not in California. If your startup is not related to your work that you do during the day, and if you are not using company equipment, any claims like that would be impossible to enfornce.
You can de facto enforce anything by getting an injunction of a product release. The company starting the lawsuit might lose and pay for it, but the startup could be killed by a delay in release, legal fees, and investors backing off from a risky setup.
Reference?
It really depends on what you call success. If you determine success to be getting acquired and retiring, then no I don't think moonlighting will get you to that point. However, if you determine success to be creating a side business that is profitable and has a slower, but possibly more steady growth rate, I definitely think that is possible if not probable. I have succeeded in creating a profitable side business and regardless of what others may think, I consider myself successful because of that.
It sounds as though any strategy can work as long as you're serious about it.
Actually, he overlooked one very, very good reason:
You get requirements from your daytime job.
This is so important that when I stopped moonlighting and went full time on my start-up, I kept an outside client 2 days per week. Let me explain...
One of my biggest problems has always been WHAT to build, not HOW to build it. Many successful start-ups have been the result of building what one needed oneself. I just expand "oneself" to include my parttime clients. Think you have needs? Wait til you see the long lists of needs in almost any small business. Sure, I lose a little time in the development cycle, but I more than make up for it at user acceptance time. No cycles there - I already know what they want.
You get requirements from your daytime job.
This is so important that when I stopped moonlighting and went full time on my start-up, I kept an outside client 2 days per week. Let me explain...
One of my biggest problems has always been WHAT to build, not HOW to build it. Many successful start-ups have been the result of building what one needed oneself. I just expand "oneself" to include my parttime clients. Think you have needs? Wait til you see the long lists of needs in almost any small business. Sure, I lose a little time in the development cycle, but I more than make up for it at user acceptance time. No cycles there - I already know what they want.
If you're curious about this, I suggest following the official Joel on Software "The Business of Software" Discussion Forum.
http://discuss.joelonsoftware.com/?biz
I tend to think of it as "Hacker News for people with a mortgage".
http://discuss.joelonsoftware.com/?biz
I tend to think of it as "Hacker News for people with a mortgage".
You can pull this off if your day job contract has no IP restrictions and there are no competitors coding full time as you divide your time between the start-up and your day job.
I enjoyed the article, I think the points are well thought out.
How are you going to get the initial users for your social marketplace?
this is a good point. build it and they will come does not work? build it, market it and if its any good your get a couple of users and then refine and repeat.
Self-serving bias all over. As far as I can see, the only valid reason for working on a startup part-time is risk/cost tolerance or some obscure personal situation.
Some 'advantages':
>You can fund your own startup.
Refer pg's equity equation. I'd love to have sequoia/YC worry about my company in addition to my co-founders.
> No one is going to kick you because your took money from them for your FAILED startup. No one even cares if your startup fails
That's not necessarily an upside. I think most people can deal with personal failure a lot better than letting someone else down. This affects motivation. To quote Bezos: Jeff Bezos: I think one thing I find very motivating -- and I think this is probably a very common form of motivation or cause of motivation -- is... I love people counting on me, and so, you know, today it's so easy to be motivated, because we have millions of customers counting on us at Amazon.com. We've got thousands of investors counting on us. And we're a team of thousands of employees all counting on each other. That's fun.
>If you love coding then you can enjoy it 24/7
Try it and notice your efficiency. I'd actually recommend switching roles for your day job and night job.
Regardless, Kudos for being the one-legged man - this shit ain't easy.