Graphene: 'Super' material will be in your home sooner than you think(cnn.com)
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Graphene: 'Super' material will be in your home sooner than you think
http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/02/tech/innovation/graphene-quest-for-first-ever-2d-material/index.html
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All I can think is –
[Mr. Burns is reminiscing about his grandfather's old Atom Smashing Plant]
Burns' Grandfather: Come on, men! Smash those atoms! You there, turn out your pockets.
[Two goons seize a waifish worker and turn out his pockets]
Burns' Grandfather: Aha - atoms! One, two, three, four... SIX of them! Take him away!
[Mr. Burns is reminiscing about his grandfather's old Atom Smashing Plant]
Burns' Grandfather: Come on, men! Smash those atoms! You there, turn out your pockets.
[Two goons seize a waifish worker and turn out his pockets]
Burns' Grandfather: Aha - atoms! One, two, three, four... SIX of them! Take him away!
There is absolutely nothing in the story that has conclusions of how it will actually be in your home in any practical use?
I mean it is raving about the material but not any tested application?
Article vaguely says "want to" and "considering".
On slide 3, I see the words "could" and "promises" which is meaningless.
You might find this reference table handy: https://xkcd.com/678/
Graphene clearly falls under the "10 years" section.
I mean it is raving about the material but not any tested application?
Article vaguely says "want to" and "considering".
On slide 3, I see the words "could" and "promises" which is meaningless.
You might find this reference table handy: https://xkcd.com/678/
Graphene clearly falls under the "10 years" section.
The video says Samsung is using it in its YOUM flexible display, that was demoed at CES this year. Rumors are both Samsung and LG will release phones with such displays within the next 6 months or so.
EDIT: This one just appeared:
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/samsung-galaxy-round-tipped-...
EDIT: This one just appeared:
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/samsung-galaxy-round-tipped-...
Ah okay, using that lead, I found this http://www.intellalegal.com/2013/03/samsung-graphene-patent-...
Touch screen displays are made of indium-tin-oxide and samsung wants to replace it with far cheaper graphene.
But that is only a cost saving measure and I am not sure if it brings anything new to the table other than increased profit?
This paragraph alone says more than the entire CNN story:
Many companies have invested in the research and development of graphene and other nanoamterials. In all, the USPTO has issued approximately 7,000 patents related to graphene. Samsung has received the most patents related to graphene, with over 400 patents for the use of the material in displays and electronics.
Touch screen displays are made of indium-tin-oxide and samsung wants to replace it with far cheaper graphene.
But that is only a cost saving measure and I am not sure if it brings anything new to the table other than increased profit?
This paragraph alone says more than the entire CNN story:
Many companies have invested in the research and development of graphene and other nanoamterials. In all, the USPTO has issued approximately 7,000 patents related to graphene. Samsung has received the most patents related to graphene, with over 400 patents for the use of the material in displays and electronics.
I would've missed it myself, if I didn't see the video. I never knew Samsung's YOUM display used graphene. It just thought they finally got around to making flexible OLED displays, since everyone was saying early on that one of the qualities of OLED is that it can be made flexible.
I don't know if it's a cost cutting thing for them, though, at least not in the short term, with small batches of them. It might be why the initial flexible displays will only be 720p, instead of 1080p, which I think one of the rumors is saying (on the LG side).
Either way, it will definitely be used as a marketing tool. I'm not sure if some other form factor other than flat will be appealing to consumers (unless it could be expanded into a tablet somehow?), but I think the biggest benefit to consumers initially will be that it's virtually unbreakable. It shouldn't shatter like all the other touchscreen displays do.
I don't know if it's a cost cutting thing for them, though, at least not in the short term, with small batches of them. It might be why the initial flexible displays will only be 720p, instead of 1080p, which I think one of the rumors is saying (on the LG side).
Either way, it will definitely be used as a marketing tool. I'm not sure if some other form factor other than flat will be appealing to consumers (unless it could be expanded into a tablet somehow?), but I think the biggest benefit to consumers initially will be that it's virtually unbreakable. It shouldn't shatter like all the other touchscreen displays do.
Getting indium out of our electronics is HUGE.
That is a revolution in its own right.
That is a revolution in its own right.
Can you say more about why? I assume it's a cost or environmental thing or both.
Apparently it's expensive and rare. From the Wikipedia page:
"In 2002, the price was US$94 per kilogram. The recent changes in demand and supply have resulted in high and fluctuating prices of indium, which from 2006 to 2009 ranged from US$382/kg to US$918/kg.
It has been estimated that there are fewer than 20 years left of indium supplies, based on current rates of extraction, demonstrating the need for additional recycling.[37]"
"In 2002, the price was US$94 per kilogram. The recent changes in demand and supply have resulted in high and fluctuating prices of indium, which from 2006 to 2009 ranged from US$382/kg to US$918/kg.
It has been estimated that there are fewer than 20 years left of indium supplies, based on current rates of extraction, demonstrating the need for additional recycling.[37]"
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Isn't ITO among the most expensive materials in these displays? Seems like a good optimisation, if not revolutionary. Presumably it will help drive down the cost of flexible displays.
One reason biological materials are so amazing (much stronger, etc, like spider silk) is they are essentially made one atom at a time.
If we can do the same thing, but using inorganics we can create some amazing materials. Steel for example is made of a myriad of various crystals and alloys arranged as grains. Tons of work goes into the exact processing needed to encourage one type or another of grain. If we could exactly control where each atom of the iron, carbon, and other elements go we would create a material much much stronger than anything we can do today.
If we can do the same thing, but using inorganics we can create some amazing materials. Steel for example is made of a myriad of various crystals and alloys arranged as grains. Tons of work goes into the exact processing needed to encourage one type or another of grain. If we could exactly control where each atom of the iron, carbon, and other elements go we would create a material much much stronger than anything we can do today.
Tell me when I can buy large sheets of it at a reasonable price.
The article says absolutely nothing about "sooner than you think".
The article says absolutely nothing about "sooner than you think".
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which only require cheap materials and tools, yes, even cheap for me in china
and i was thinking if people could use this to burn a cpu on that disk