Got an account on a site like Github? Hackers may know your e-mail address(arstechnica.com)
arstechnica.com
Got an account on a site like Github? Hackers may know your e-mail address
http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/07/got-an-account-on-a-site-like-github-hackers-may-know-your-e-mail-address/
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> The only place this is likely to be an issue is when a site knows you but you assume you're anonymous. If you're using a web service where you want to be anonymous, connecting anything with your identity is a bad idea.
While I wish the article headline mentioned Gravatar as opposed to Github, I think it is worth realizing that Github provides instructions to use a fake email address in your .gitconfig to protect your privacy [1] while simultaneously requiring you to provide a valid email address while setting up your account. [2]
[1]: https://help.github.com/articles/keeping-your-email-address-...
[2]: https://help.github.com/articles/github-terms-of-service#a-a...
While I wish the article headline mentioned Gravatar as opposed to Github, I think it is worth realizing that Github provides instructions to use a fake email address in your .gitconfig to protect your privacy [1] while simultaneously requiring you to provide a valid email address while setting up your account. [2]
[1]: https://help.github.com/articles/keeping-your-email-address-...
[2]: https://help.github.com/articles/github-terms-of-service#a-a...
Exactly what I was thinking. If you commit to github, your account email is already public.
Isn't this public knowledge? "Oh no! 'Hackers' have my oh-so-sacred email address! Yeah, that thing on all of my sites, business cards, dozens of whois records, resumes, speaker decks, the Dominoes online ordering system, and so on... What shall I ever do?"
I'd seriously question their talent if they weren't able to find it.
I'd seriously question their talent if they weren't able to find it.
Yes, developers have known about this problem for years.
But Gravatar and sites using Gravatar are terrible at explaining these risks to less technical users. Those users have an expectation of privacy when a site claims they won't share their e-mail address with anyone. No one has told them how incredibly easy it is to verify that their user account on one of the sites they use is the same person as a user account on a different site.
But Gravatar and sites using Gravatar are terrible at explaining these risks to less technical users. Those users have an expectation of privacy when a site claims they won't share their e-mail address with anyone. No one has told them how incredibly easy it is to verify that their user account on one of the sites they use is the same person as a user account on a different site.
The article title is link bait. The article is about Gravatar, and GitHub only matters because it utilizes Gravatar.
(Your email address may be visible in all sorts of other ways on GitHub, such as when someone does git log on a public git repository.)
If you're worried about your Gravatar being matched to your inflammatory (i.e., trolling) Hacker News or WordPress comments, you probably should be using a separate email account and Tor and whatnot.
(Your email address may be visible in all sorts of other ways on GitHub, such as when someone does git log on a public git repository.)
If you're worried about your Gravatar being matched to your inflammatory (i.e., trolling) Hacker News or WordPress comments, you probably should be using a separate email account and Tor and whatnot.
My email address? Oh god no!
slawmaster at... that google email provider.
I just hacked your hn profile, expect me sending you an email.
[In the voice of Steven Wright]:
I'd like to get an email address that nobody knows. That way when I don't get any email, I won't be disappointed...
I'd like to get an email address that nobody knows. That way when I don't get any email, I won't be disappointed...
Doesn't github also store it in a json response?
IIRC, your email only comes back from the API if you've entered something into the "Email (will be public)" field in your profile. They also allow you to use a separate email for Gravatar.
the gravatar email recovery hack has been known for years, they are recycling an old topic.
luckily my email isn't a secret as I publish it everywhere willingly.
luckily my email isn't a secret as I publish it everywhere willingly.
The problem is that since they know your email address, they can find your email from leaked databases... Then try that password to own your repo...
what password?
Assuming:
* A hacker has a leaked database
* Your email and password are in this database
* Your public email is the same one used in the database
* Plain-text passwords are easy to extract from this leaked databases
* You use the same password and email combination other places
* Other places with that email/password don't use two-step authentication
Then if they have your email they can get your password and try it other places
* A hacker has a leaked database
* Your email and password are in this database
* Your public email is the same one used in the database
* Plain-text passwords are easy to extract from this leaked databases
* You use the same password and email combination other places
* Other places with that email/password don't use two-step authentication
Then if they have your email they can get your password and try it other places
> You use the same password and email combination other places
This is the problem. Every password for every account you create should be unique. Bonus points if you use a unique email alias for every account you create too.
This is the problem. Every password for every account you create should be unique. Bonus points if you use a unique email alias for every account you create too.
That one single password you use on all webpages, clearly.
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If a site uses your Gravatar, game over: Gravatar's literally a raw MD5 of your email with the aim to give you a globally identifiable avatar. That's been known (documented!) for a long time and unlikely to be a surprise to many of us here.
The only place this is likely to be an issue is when a site knows you but you assume you're anonymous. If you're using a web service where you want to be anonymous, connecting anything with your identity is a bad idea.