Mysterious Voynich manuscript has 'genuine message'(bbc.co.uk)
bbc.co.uk
Mysterious Voynich manuscript has 'genuine message'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-22975809
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Just another article about another inconclusive statistical analysis on the Voynich text, with no technical details.
Move along, nothing to see here.
Move along, nothing to see here.
I was excited to see that maybe something new was discovered but this article is just useless, just filler words.
Humm so the article is a long text with language structure but without a message... humm....
I think I'll go with Randall Munroe on this one.
http://xkcd.com/593/
http://xkcd.com/593/
Is there anyplace I can buy a print of the Voynich manuscript? I have long been fascinated by it but I've never seen it for sale. Amazon has some books about it, but not the manuscript itself.
I don't know if there are reproductions, but meanwhile, you can get page-by-page scans of it here :
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/esp_ciencia_manusc...
Edit: Better source at the Yale library you can download the whole thing as one PDF :
http://brbl-dl.library.yale.edu/vufind/Record/3519597
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/esp_ciencia_manusc...
Edit: Better source at the Yale library you can download the whole thing as one PDF :
http://brbl-dl.library.yale.edu/vufind/Record/3519597
There's also a very interesting novel where the Voynich manuscript plays a central role: PopCo by Scarlett Thomas [0]
Another central theme that will probably appeal to this audience is underground resistance against global commercialisation.
[0]: http://www.amazon.com/PopCo-Scarlett-Thomas/dp/B000I2J20E/re...
Another central theme that will probably appeal to this audience is underground resistance against global commercialisation.
[0]: http://www.amazon.com/PopCo-Scarlett-Thomas/dp/B000I2J20E/re...
It has pictures of naked women bathing. So the words probably don't mean anything. I mean, who subscribes to Playboy for the articles?
You jest but Playboy used to have some of the best interviews ever conducted.
It would be very interesting indeed if that holds true for the Voynich manuscript :)
This is a very similiar article theme-wise, but not as sparse on details http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/11/ff-the-manuscript/al...
Cryptographers; isn't Voynich manuscript a proof that security by obscurity works? (only confidentiality)
I think it's proof that given sufficient decorative fluff, people will spend a great deal of time attempting to make sense of nonsense. Same basic principle as snake oil.
No, it's proof that properly executed steganography works.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steganography
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steganography
No, it's proof that no one can crack what's just random shit pasted together. No message, no decoding.
Why would you assume there's a message behind the Voynich?
Why would you assume there's a message behind the Voynich?
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I think it's alien.
Where can I find specifics on the actual methods they are using to research the manuscript?
This page has some info:
http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjourna...
http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjourna...
The conclusion:
"So let's wrap this up with my favorite theory, and the one that is perhaps best supported by all that's known. In the early 1400s, some professional, perhaps a physician or astrologer or alchemist, wanted to create some marketing material that demonstrated he had rare knowledge from the East. He engaged a monk or other scribe to produce a book filled with wondrous and curious illustrations from multiple sciences, and a text that nobody could read, which he could tell his customers was the source of whatever great Eastern wisdom he wanted. The monk had a colleague assist, and the two devised an alphabet and used their own multilingual familiarity with written language to devise a convincing nonsense text. It was well done enough that its owner could even use it to impress his colleagues. Thus, this anonymous professional ended up with impressive marketing collateral that's conceptually identical to the labcoat worn by a naturopath, the energy diagram on the wall of a yoga guru, and the purchased-online title of "doctor" sported by alternative practitioners of every variety."