Continuations in Mono: Embrace and Extending.NET, Part 3 - Miguel de Icaza(tirania.org)
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Continuations in Mono: Embrace and Extending.NET, Part 3 - Miguel de Icaza
http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2009/Apr-09.html
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I'm kind of wishing someone smarter than me did this with the JVM - I would love to be able to use continuations or even coroutines in Clojure.
I wrote a Java scripting lang that supports continuations. Lots of fun stuff: http://today.java.net/pub/a/today/2008/07/24/fun-with-contin...
SISC Scheme ( http://sisc-scheme.org/ ) has continuations and runs on top of the JVM.
RIFE does it, but it accomplishes this by modifying classes on-the-fly. Is this cumbersome, or does it actually work? http://rifers.org/features/integrated+web+continuations
Look at the crap that is GNOME and the related libraries, which insidiously work their way into other GPL libraries.
I then look at Mono, which will always serve as an advertisement for Microsoft and which will always be feature-poor in comparison (as it has to play catch-up).
No doubt it seems in poor form to criticize someone who gives away software for free ... but if anyone is responsible for the "Microsoftization" of Linux, it is Miguel de Icaza.
I then look at Mono, which will always serve as an advertisement for Microsoft and which will always be feature-poor in comparison (as it has to play catch-up).
No doubt it seems in poor form to criticize someone who gives away software for free ... but if anyone is responsible for the "Microsoftization" of Linux, it is Miguel de Icaza.
Mono team, please stop.
You don't even support all of .NET 1.1 yet. Why could any of you possibly think it's a good idea to add your own features to C#???
Look, your job is to make .NET run under Linux. I know you think you're something more special than that, but you're not. This is just yak shaving, and it needs to stop. All you're going to accomplish by doing this is further piss off us developers who just want to port their stuff to another OS without it crashing.
You don't even support all of .NET 1.1 yet. Why could any of you possibly think it's a good idea to add your own features to C#???
Look, your job is to make .NET run under Linux. I know you think you're something more special than that, but you're not. This is just yak shaving, and it needs to stop. All you're going to accomplish by doing this is further piss off us developers who just want to port their stuff to another OS without it crashing.
whenever I see Mono in the news, I always ask the question:
Why would you heavily slant your open source CLR for a language that is heavily patented and controlled by M$?
Using it has been a pain too. Mono either doesn't support x functionality of x version of .NET or the behavior is slightly different.
After all of these years, I still fail to see the point of Mono given the available alternatives (like native M$ .NET)
Why would you heavily slant your open source CLR for a language that is heavily patented and controlled by M$?
Using it has been a pain too. Mono either doesn't support x functionality of x version of .NET or the behavior is slightly different.
After all of these years, I still fail to see the point of Mono given the available alternatives (like native M$ .NET)
C# is an ISO standard.
http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue/catalogue_tc/catalogue_...
http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue/catalogue_tc/catalogue_...
As far as I can tell, nothing about the C# language itself is patented, the issue revolves around certain parts of the base class libraries.
As for the point? Various Gnome apps seem to be doing well; I can see how writing them in C would've been comparatively tedious. And there's the obvious use in porting .NET apps to OSX or Linux.
As for the point? Various Gnome apps seem to be doing well; I can see how writing them in C would've been comparatively tedious. And there's the obvious use in porting .NET apps to OSX or Linux.
Whenever I see Mono in the news there's always someone like you mentioning Microsoft and patents. It gets old. Everyone already knows about the issue and has an opinion. I much prefer to read interesting (technical) opinions about Mono's new functionality instead.
Well you have to admit its kind of a shit situation, that this benevolent 3rd party has to step up to bring C# to the world outside of Microsoft. Imagine if Sun never released Java for anything other than Solaris. Linux in the server room is serious business. It's like some pathetic highschool drama that Microsoft ignores it, like Linux used to date Microsoft's girlfriend and now Microsoft ignores Linux. Yeah sure its a business strategy whatever, but it sucks for everyone involved. If it were anyone other than Microsoft, this snubbing would be highly unprofessional. I want to choose a language/framework based on its quality, not on some bullshit market maneuvering.
Say wha? What doesn't Mono support beyond some non-ported frameworks?